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Who create God?
#81
RE: Who create God?
(November 29, 2013 at 9:43 am)max-greece Wrote: If God exists who created him?

Well let me see.......oh yes, man did, on what was obviously not one of his better days.

On the 60th AD, man created god in his own image, and he saw it wasn't good.
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#82
RE: Who create God?
I think human capacity is not enough to answer this question . Also if there was an answer for this question , all the people would belive in God or all people would not .

There are some verses about this , he define himself partially .

There is an end of the whole substances , but he define himself as endless . So therefore he is not substance , can not be created .

Kul huvAllahu ehad ; "Say ; he is the God the only one ,
Allah us samed ; God the absolute,
Lem yelid ve Lem yuled ; He doesnt beget , nor was He begotten ,
Ve lem yekun lehu kufuven ehad ; and there is nothing that could be compared with Him."

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#83
RE: Who create God?
(November 29, 2013 at 9:40 am)enrico Wrote: What an intelligent person would do?
Would he question whether that mango tree come from here or there or would try to grasp as many mangoes as possible and quench the hunger?
At this stage is absurd trying to understand where God came from considering that a small mind or an UNIdimensional mind can not grasp the mind of a MULTIdimensional mind like God.

Remember guys, an intelligent person wouldn't waste his time trying to understand the mind of god or figure out if god exists, he'd just shut up and get to worshiping!
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#84
RE: Who create God?
(December 10, 2013 at 5:34 pm)Nineteen Wrote: I think human capacity is not enough to answer this question . Also if there was an answer for this question , all the people would belive in God or all people would not .

There are some verses about this , he define himself partially .

There is an end of the whole substances , but he define himself as endless . So therefore he is not substance , can not be created .

Kul huvAllahu ehad ; "Say ; he is the God the only one ,
Allah us samed ; God the absolute,
Lem yelid ve Lem yuled ; He doesnt beget , nor was He begotten ,
Ve lem yekun lehu kufuven ehad ; and there is nothing that could be compared with Him."

As a counterpoint to your fine apologetic, I'd like to offer a few choice words from the book of Fred. Sayeth he: "Yabba dabba doo!" Need anymore be said? (Also, Fred 2 24:18: "Wilma!")

(Btw, I'm no longer a moderator, so you're free to put me on ignore now.)

*cackle*


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#85
RE: Who create God?
"Who created God"?


Undecided err which one? We currently have something near to 4,000 to choose from.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#86
RE: Who create God?
Which God?

I'll assume you mean God in general.

Well, the world being a beautiful and terrifying place, naturally to the early peoples without science, things needed explaining. So, they used Spirits and Gods and such to explain, and it evolved from there.
IN SACULA SAECULORUM
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#87
RE: Who create God?
(December 10, 2013 at 5:34 pm)Nineteen Wrote: I think human capacity is not enough to answer this question . Also if there was an answer for this question , all the people would belive in God or all people would not .

There are some verses about this , he define himself partially .

There is an end of the whole substances , but he define himself as endless . So therefore he is not substance , can not be created .

Kul huvAllahu ehad ; "Say ; he is the God the only one ,
Allah us samed ; God the absolute,
Lem yelid ve Lem yuled ; He doesnt beget , nor was He begotten ,
Ve lem yekun lehu kufuven ehad ; and there is nothing that could be compared with Him."

If the question of god is beyond human capacity to answer, why believe in one?
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#88
RE: Who create God?
Fear.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#89
RE: Who create God?
(December 11, 2013 at 1:08 am)Freedom of thought Wrote: If the question of god is beyond human capacity to answer, why believe in one?

No need to understand the description of the description for a description of something. So if you were found a piece of a structure on moon , for example a refrigerator or pyramid, you would think that it was designed by an entity with a mind and this would be legitimate explanation from a scientific perspective. But does not mean this perspective is wrong if you cant find the designer and this also does not mean this structures were spontaneously occurred.


(December 11, 2013 at 4:49 am)Stimbo Wrote: Fear.

We are afraid of Allah because of we believe in him .

We believe in him not because of we are afraid of him .

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#90
RE: Who create God?
(December 11, 2013 at 7:28 am)Nineteen Wrote:
(December 11, 2013 at 1:08 am)Freedom of thought Wrote: If the question of god is beyond human capacity to answer, why believe in one?

No need to understand the description of the description for a description of something. So if you were found a piece of a structure on moon , for example a refrigerator or pyramid, you would think that it was designed by an entity with a mind and this would be legitimate explanation from a scientific perspective. But does not mean this perspective is wrong if you cant find the designer and this also does not mean this structures were spontaneously occurred.
That refrigerator or pyramid would have to be made from something... that something is usually some substance which we can find in many places on any telluric planet.
But you are arguing for a designer that designed these things from which we make other things.
You are arguing for a creator of matter itself.
You are arguing for something altogether different... hence your analogy is flawed.

(December 11, 2013 at 7:28 am)Nineteen Wrote:
(December 11, 2013 at 4:49 am)Stimbo Wrote: Fear.

We are afraid of Allah because of we believe in him .

We believe in him not because of we are afraid of him .
No...
We are afraid to die so we come up with the after-life.... then we put the forces of Nature on the place where this after-life occurs... then we give them some hierarchy... then we say there's a leader... then some people have come up with the notion that there's only that leader in that place.
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