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RE: Unfortunately the atheist will have to stand up and go
December 4, 2013 at 2:47 pm
The question of whether or not there is an afterlife is not worth asking. Just like the god question.
Just like whether or not Hogwarts exists is not worth asking even though it'd change all our lives if did.
They're both ridiculous questions that are actually ridiculous claims and they don't really deserve an answer.
If you go about life thinking you score a point every time you ask a ridiculous question and people are honest enough to say they don't know, then you can score a lot of points by asking about the existence of things in fiction. That's what the bible is, fiction. I don't walk around asking people if they thought hobbits existed, then say, well but you can't really know, can you? If there's a hobbit somewhere, you may not know about it. So that's it? Your position is that you don't know?
Seriously?
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RE: Unfortunately the atheist will have to stand up and go
December 4, 2013 at 3:09 pm
So much posts since my last visit. And all of them revolving about one thing - hobbits and Santa Klauses.
A summary - no one knows here whether the afterlife, God, soul exist. That's actually is what I've been asking for.
Ok no one knows
The Keekeepidia says
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.
The rejection of belief and the position! It just reminds me again of that thinker and philosopher of Dostoevsky who expected to go straight to darkness and death and found a future life before him. He was astounded and indignant. 'This is against my principles!' he said. And he was punished for that...
The rejection of belief or the position = principle!
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RE: Unfortunately the atheist will have to stand up and go
December 4, 2013 at 3:14 pm
So you're allowed to use 2 pieces of fiction: bible and dostoevsky but I can't use LOTR?
See what I mean? Ridiculous and pointless.
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RE: Unfortunately the atheist will have to stand up and go
December 4, 2013 at 3:26 pm
I have come to a logical conclusion that is what you should be aware of and not that nonsense you ve just written...
kidding kidding
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RE: Unfortunately the atheist will have to stand up and go
December 4, 2013 at 3:29 pm
What? You need to stop using google translate and get an english speaking friend to help you out, I literally have no idea what you just wrote.
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RE: Unfortunately the atheist will have to stand up and go
December 4, 2013 at 3:30 pm
(December 4, 2013 at 3:26 pm)DOS Wrote: I have come to a logical conclusion that is what you should be aware of and not that nonsense you ve just written...
kidding kidding
So why not share the thought processes behind the logical conclusion. So far you have offered absolutely nothing to back up your position. The OP starts from the basis that there is a God/afterlife/soul etc.
That's a story and not evidence. What convinced you?
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RE: Unfortunately the atheist will have to stand up and go
December 4, 2013 at 3:39 pm
I have already told you several times that I am an atheist.
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RE: Unfortunately the atheist will have to stand up and go
December 4, 2013 at 3:47 pm
(December 4, 2013 at 3:45 pm)DOS Wrote: Then which one between the two makes you a non believer? The rejection of belief or the position?
The way you word that doesn't quite make sense. I think the closest you can get is to say that the atheist's belief is based on a rejection of the position (the position being: god exists).
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
