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Atheists were born Muslims
#21
RE: Atheists were born Muslims
Muslims like people of any other religion were born atheists, then indoctrinated into the religion they were "born into".
Heaven is where fantasy meets hedonism. I'm on my way to where cynicism meets hedonism. If you'd like to come with me, bring something because you're not tagging along for free.
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#22
RE: Atheists were born Muslims
Sleepy, this is for you:

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When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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#23
RE: Atheists were born Muslims
(December 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Sleepy Wrote: This entire universe is not even .001 of his power.

Does that mean it's somewhere around .0009?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#24
RE: Atheists were born Muslims
(December 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Sleepy Wrote: Every atheist and homosexual when they were born was a Muslim. It is in fact the religion atheist can accept at any moment and their lives will become better. Not just saying you're a Muslim but truly believing in the Oneness of Allah. The miracles are all around. The sun, stars, reproduction which is mentioned in the Quran in detail, nature and everything else. These are the miracles of Allah. This entire universe is not even .001 of his power.

What does Allah say?

Live peacefully and treat others with kindness regardless of sex or gender, and race. Be kind, charity is a must, seeking knowledge.

Don't attack unless acting in self defense

Quran 2:90
" Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."

Don't attack first. It's most preferable to use your words to solve any disputes.

Live with morals, ethics, cleanliness, hygiene, kindness and respect with wife and others, having patience, no arrogance, humble and knolwedge seeking.

There are posts by a few individuals on here who it's clear are severely confused and their mind is a horrible place to be. These people have a disease of the heart and mind but they are few on here.

You really need to just go and have a massive wank, and stop blaming other people for the fact that every girl you ever meet will find you repulsive.
(June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Most Gays have a typical behavior of rejecting religions, because religions consider them as sinners (In Islam they deserve to be killed)
(June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I think you are too idiot to know the meaning of idiot for example you have a law to prevent boys under 16 from driving do you think that all boys under 16 are careless and cannot drive properly
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#25
RE: Atheists were born Muslims
Islam is such a desperate religion. To increase their numbers they have to claim all babies were muslims, literally the only group that will not be able to defend themselves against such claims.

So sick of this religion really, it's so illogical I can't believe anyone falls for this unless indoctrinated since they were very very young.
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#26
RE: Atheists were born Muslims
(December 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Sleepy Wrote: Every atheist and homosexual when they were born was a Muslim. It is in fact the religion atheist can accept at any moment and their lives will become better. Not just saying you're a Muslim but truly believing in the Oneness of Allah. The miracles are all around. The sun, stars, reproduction which is mentioned in the Quran in detail, nature and everything else. These are the miracles of Allah. This entire universe is not even .001 of his power.

What does Allah say?

Live peacefully and treat others with kindness regardless of sex or gender, and race. Be kind, charity is a must, seeking knowledge.

Don't attack unless acting in self defense

Quran 2:90
" Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."

Don't attack first. It's most preferable to use your words to solve any disputes.

Live with morals, ethics, cleanliness, hygiene, kindness and respect with wife and others, having patience, no arrogance, humble and knolwedge seeking.

There are posts by a few individuals on here who it's clear are severely confused and their mind is a horrible place to be. These people have a disease of the heart and mind but they are few on here.

Actually every Muslim, Christian, atheist and, in fact every human, is born an atheist.

This is obvious since kids have to be taught the god concept, it's not something they come up with on their own.

I grew out of the need for an imaginary friend when I was 12. And I've been a happier, better person since then. The last thing I need is to get into another religion, especially one that would treat me as property, that hates and fears women, especially educated women, and has a 15th century mentality.

"There are posts by a few individuals on here who it's clear are severely confused and their mind is a horrible place to be."

Yes, that would be you.
Dying to live, living to die.
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#27
RE: Atheists were born Muslims
(December 5, 2013 at 11:14 am)Nineteen Wrote: Everyone borns as muslims with a peaceful fitrat . But then they begin to break in time .

Fitrat : human nature

So adult muslims are no longer peaceful? No shit...

...also, kinda diminishes the allure of Islam, y'know?
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#28
RE: Atheists were born Muslims
(December 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Sleepy Wrote: Every atheist and homosexual when they were born was a Muslim. It is in fact the religion atheist can accept at any moment and their lives will become better. </snip>

Are you in the mind of babies ? no , therefore you can't say that they're Muslims.
Also , how an infant can be "Atheist , Agnostic , Apatheist , Ignosticist , Deist , Muslim etc..." because at this age we don't know the concept of any Gods ?
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#29
RE: Atheists were born Muslims
My nieces had a hard time believing my mother still existed and would come back when she went to the bathroom. No one believes in deities when they're born. It should be pretty easy to test this by raising a child while isolated from the knowledge of gods. I doubt any of them would think there was a person in the sky that made the world turn unless they were told.

I suppose the closest you could get is saying all deities, From Zeus to Osiris to Odin to Allah to Vishnu to Jesus is just an aspect of the same guy. which would be closer to hinduism than islam.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#30
RE: Atheists were born Muslims
(December 5, 2013 at 3:15 pm)viocjit Wrote:
(December 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Sleepy Wrote: Every atheist and homosexual when they were born was a Muslim. It is in fact the religion atheist can accept at any moment and their lives will become better. </snip>

Are you in the mind of babies ? no , therefore you can't say that they're Muslims.
Also , how an infant can be "Atheist , Agnostic , Apatheist , Ignosticist , Deist , Muslim etc..." because at this age we don't know the concept of any Gods ?

Atheist simply means not a theist. It doesn't mean will never be a theist or rational or scientific or all that other stuff people like to lump together with atheism. Infants are not theists, as you say they don't know the concept of gods, so they are atheists.
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