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RE: Atheists were born Muslims
December 5, 2013 at 6:45 pm
(December 5, 2013 at 6:40 pm)Nineteen Wrote: (December 5, 2013 at 6:36 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: How interesting.
So I'm interested in the creating power, in need of love, generally away from hate and we'll intentioned.
Am I then a Muslim?
Perhaps it would help if you or you could define what in your view defines someone as a Muslim.
Nope , you're old enough to make your own decisions and you dont believe in Allah . So you're not muslim . But babies and children are not responsible for this , they cant decide .
This is running dangerously close to violation of Rule #1 of our forum. If you are insufficiently acquainted with the rules of our forum, I suggest you become so.
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RE: Atheists were born Muslims
December 5, 2013 at 6:56 pm
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(December 5, 2013 at 6:29 pm)Nineteen Wrote: (December 5, 2013 at 4:00 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Children ask why a lot then listen to their parents or guardians, if they were born muslims their parents wouldn't have to tell them about it.
Asked questions surprises me alot here , I would expect much more intelligent questions to be asked .
Being born as muslim does not mean babies know Allah and Islam . What is meant here is their interest for a creative power and their innocence as a new born human being , innocent , in need of love , away from hate , well-intentioned ... etc .... As the teachings of Islam .
You do realise, of course, that you're talking crap, yes?
You might be surprised by the lack of 'intelligent questions', but then again, have you ever heard the maxim 'you've got to play what's in front of you'?
That's a polite way of saying that you're fulfilling all our expectations of someone who appears to be pretty heavily indoctrinated, and not very intelligent.
It's a real shame because it's a rare thing to talk to a woman who follows Islam. But unfortunately you haven't really met my expectations. I actually know and have spoken to quite a few women who are Muslims in RL, and I think they'd all be pretty disappointed in the shift you've put in here.
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RE: Atheists were born Muslims
December 5, 2013 at 6:59 pm
(December 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: You do realize that being raised with indoctrination where only the one faith is taught does not allow the young one to truly decide, correct? In most cases, children believe what their parents believe, because their parents inform them that it is true and that they must believe. Not much of a choice going on there.
To truly let the young decide, either teach all faiths to allow them to decide in which they want to believe or teach none.
Event that brainwashing is very much exaggerated , noone wear children chip that prevents them thinking . They will start to questions when they reached sufficient maturity , noone can wash the questioning people's brains . Many verse in Quran starts or ends with the sentence "For people thinking and questioning" . So islam want muslims to question about what is going on .
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RE: Atheists were born Muslims
December 5, 2013 at 7:00 pm
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(December 5, 2013 at 3:59 pm)Nineteen Wrote: (December 5, 2013 at 3:01 pm)Beccs Wrote: Actually every Muslim, Christian, atheist and, in fact every human, is born an atheist.
Every human borns with a sense of search for the creator . This has been proven by experiments on babies and children.
This is a lie.
You are lying to us and wondering why we think you're a childish idiot?
Prove it love. Prove to us what you've just said. Cite the publications and their results that support your (lie) assertion.
I've been an atheist my entire life and never once felt the need to believe in whatever a god is.
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RE: Atheists were born Muslims
December 5, 2013 at 7:01 pm
(December 5, 2013 at 6:59 pm)Nineteen Wrote: So islam want muslims to question about what is going on .
If theists truly questioned religion, truly understanding what a lie it is, they would denounce religion.
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RE: Atheists were born Muslims
December 5, 2013 at 7:28 pm
(December 5, 2013 at 7:00 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: (December 5, 2013 at 3:59 pm)Nineteen Wrote: Every human borns with a sense of search for the creator . This has been proven by experiments on babies and children.
This is a lie.
You are lying to us and wondering why we think you're a childish idiot?
Prove it love. Prove to us what you've just said. Cite the publications and their results that support your (lie) assertion.
I've been an atheist my entire life and never once felt the need to believe in whatever a god is.
This was a research paper published in the Telegraph . Atheist people say "our religion is science" but they throw aside science when science say something that atheist people dont want to hear . Most respected atheists have been suddenly forgotten when they finally accept the existence of Allah , they even accused of being senile or getting money . Although atheists have much more of a source of funds .
I'm putting you in ignore list . Noone have right to insult people because of differences of opinions . Bye ...
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RE: Atheists were born Muslims
December 5, 2013 at 7:31 pm
You're not actually trying to convince us if you do not link to sources.
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RE: Atheists were born Muslims
December 5, 2013 at 7:32 pm
(December 5, 2013 at 7:28 pm)Nineteen Wrote: I'm putting you in ignore list .
Keep doing that, and you will only be talking to yourself on this forum.
Also, just in case you were not aware, it is against the rules to place moderators on ignore. Be careful, because you will be banned for doing it if you are not paying attention.
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RE: Atheists were born Muslims
December 5, 2013 at 7:35 pm
(December 5, 2013 at 7:31 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: You're not actually trying to convince us if you do not link to sources.
I dont want and I dont need to convince anyone . Why you need me to convince you , google is for everyone .
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RE: Atheists were born Muslims
December 5, 2013 at 7:36 pm
You made the claim, back it up. You're pussying out.
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