Setback in controlling HIV/AIDS

[pineapplebunnybounce]

No I'm not saying all research studies are unethical. I'm saying some have unethical designs and they are not approved and don't even get to the point where they can recruit participants. And that these studies (the ones with unethical designs) are often approved if they were planning to recruit in poorer countries. There are a lot of ethical issues when it comes to medical studies because you're basically experimenting on humans, are you saying that everything is ok as long as there is consent?

[NoraBrimstone]

If it weren't for risky trials involving real patients, people would still be dying of all sorts of illnesses that are now easily treatable with the right meds. It's not like they look at an illness and invent the right drug to cure/control it and get it right first time. It's all trial and error.

[TaraJo]

If it weren't for risky trials involving real patients, people would still be dying of all sorts of illnesses that are now easily treatable with the right meds. It's not like they look at an illness and invent the right drug to cure/control it and get it right first time. It's all trial and error.

Very true. Plus, they find other ways to test before they move onto trials with patients. It isn't like doctors just get a treatment idea in their head and immediately move onto trying it.

[The_Thinking_Theist]

http://gizmodo.com/hiv-reappears-in-two-...socialflow

Two patients, previously thought to have been successfully cured of HIV are now showing signs that they're still infected.

However, other cases of people who have been cured, from the Berlin patient to the baby born HIV+ and given an aggressive treatment early on, haven't showed any signs of infection since then.

We need a vaccine. Why don't we try one?

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http://gizmodo.com/hiv-reappears-in-two-...socialflow

Two patients, previously thought to have been successfully cured of HIV are now showing signs that they're still infected.

However, other cases of people who have been cured, from the Berlin patient to the baby born HIV+ and given an aggressive treatment early on, haven't showed any signs of infection since then.

We need a vaccine. Why don't we try one?

Granted, I don't know how vaccines work.

[TaraJo]

We need a vaccine. Why don't we try one?

Granted, I don't know how vaccines work.

With HIV, the difficulty with vaccines is that is that you need T-Cells to begin the immune response and HIV kill T-Cells before they can start that process.

[NoraBrimstone]

Not to mention that the virus evolves too fast for vaccinations to ever be of any use.

[TaraJo]

Not to mention that the virus evolves too fast for vaccinations to ever be of any use.

Heh. Every virus evolves fast. What makes HIV unique is that it specifically targets the cells within the immune system that is needed for a vaccine to work.

[pineapplebunnybounce]

You guys realize that I'm not against medical trials, but that some medical trials can be unethical right? There's a reason they're so tightly regulated and have to go through an ethics board. Back when they didn't have to do that, people were basically treated like guinea pigs. I've done research on animals and humans and people always seem more concerned about ethics when it's animals but don't realize that with humans it's even more complicated.