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RE: Muslims Make Website to Serve as Vehicle for Islamification
December 8, 2013 at 5:15 pm
(December 8, 2013 at 5:09 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: A symbol that stands for 6 million dead jews, homosexuals and gypsies. Its power to offend cannot get much greater
The swastika indeed stands for racial prejudice, but kinda ironic that some of its biggest opponents today believe that they are the members of a master race, prophecised to be the chosen people and cleanse their homeland of other ethnic and religious groups.
The debate about the freedom to don hate symbols and oppressive items of clothing is basically a matter for secular politics to decide, or at least should be. There are pros and cons to allowing/prohibiting these things, and good arguments on both sides. All we can surely be certain of is that racism, political and religious extremism is fucking repulsive whatever form it takes, oui?
(June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Most Gays have a typical behavior of rejecting religions, because religions consider them as sinners (In Islam they deserve to be killed) (June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I think you are too idiot to know the meaning of idiot for example you have a law to prevent boys under 16 from driving do you think that all boys under 16 are careless and cannot drive properly
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RE: Muslims Make Website to Serve as Vehicle for Islamification
December 8, 2013 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2013 at 5:38 pm by Raven.)
Just for the sake of information, the site being referred to is not a hate site. Only a person who just plain fucking hates Muslims would have a problem with it's existence. That said, it really is not much of a site, and really does not update with any kind of frequency. It is of no real consequence actually. Few have heard of it and it really does not deserve to be any better known. But it is not a hate site.
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RE: Muslims Make Website to Serve as Vehicle for Islamification
December 8, 2013 at 5:27 pm
A symbol that was co-opted by the ideology that perpetrated those crimes. Would you condemn a hindu for displaying a swastika? Offence is taken, not given and a symbol has no meaning except that which it is given.
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RE: Muslims Make Website to Serve as Vehicle for Islamification
December 8, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Well how about you got to a synagogue and do the hitler salute and see what happens
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RE: Muslims Make Website to Serve as Vehicle for Islamification
December 8, 2013 at 5:32 pm
Just because an action is stupid does not mean it should be illegal. Would you condemn the hindu or not?
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RE: Muslims Make Website to Serve as Vehicle for Islamification
December 8, 2013 at 5:42 pm
No, because the hindu swastika has a different meaning than the Nazi swastika
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RE: Muslims Make Website to Serve as Vehicle for Islamification
December 8, 2013 at 6:36 pm
So it's ok as long as you assign it a different meaning? Or is it only offensive if a certain group of people display the symbol?
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RE: Muslims Make Website to Serve as Vehicle for Islamification
December 8, 2013 at 6:39 pm
Its impossible to assign the swastika a different meaning now that hitler used it
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RE: Muslims Make Website to Serve as Vehicle for Islamification
December 8, 2013 at 6:46 pm
(December 8, 2013 at 5:42 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: No, because the hindu swastika has a different meaning than the Nazi swastika
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RE: Muslims Make Website to Serve as Vehicle for Islamification
December 8, 2013 at 6:51 pm
(December 8, 2013 at 6:46 pm)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote: (December 8, 2013 at 5:42 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: No, because the hindu swastika has a different meaning than the Nazi swastika
I may need to explain myself more, I think you are just being difficult on purpose.
If a hindu is using it, its likely to mean whatever it meant before hitler stole it.
If anyone other than a hindu uses it, then it is automatically assumed that they support hitler and the murder of 6 million jews, gays and gypsies.
And you still didn't address what I said earlier. Should we be allowed to not wear anything we like either? Should people be allowed to go outside with no clothes on. Cause over here, that isn't allowed
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“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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