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(December 17, 2013 at 12:13 pm)Napoléon Wrote: It's important to note this is a terrorist organisation carrying out a politically motivated attack, rather than a religious one. Not that it's any better because of it.
(January 31, 2014 at 8:33 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: But the correlation between terrorism and ALL religions is rather persuasive.
That is not true either.
There was also a broad and comprehensive analysis on the subject of terrorism that was presented in a book titled, "Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism," by Robert Rape. There is also a lecture on this on Youtube, in which the author provides a collection of many different facts and data about terrorist attacks that occurred around the world from 1980 to 2003.
The conclusion of his research is that most of the acts of terrorism around the world, both past and present, are clearly not carried out by Muslims, nor by any one of the world’s religions.
Quote:The data show that there is little connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism, or any one of the world’s religions. In fact, the leading instigators of suicide attacks are the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist-Leninist group whose members are from Hindu families but who are adamantly opposed to religion. This group committed 76 of the 315 incidents, more suicide attacks than Hamas.
(January 31, 2014 at 8:33 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: But the correlation between terrorism and ALL religions is rather persuasive.
That is not true either.
There was also a broad and comprehensive analysis on the subject of terrorism that was presented in a book titled, "Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism," by Robert Rape. There is also a lecture on this on Youtube, in which the author provides a collection of many different facts and data about terrorist attacks that occurred around the world from 1980 to 2003.
The conclusion of his research is that most of the acts of terrorism around the world, both past and present, are clearly not carried out by Muslims, nor by any one of the world’s religions.
Quote:The data show that there is little connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism, or any one of the world’s religions. In fact, the leading instigators of suicide attacks are the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist-Leninist group whose members are from Hindu families but who are adamantly opposed to religion. This group committed 76 of the 315 incidents, more suicide attacks than Hamas.
(January 31, 2014 at 7:03 pm)Rayaan Wrote: There was also a broad and comprehensive analysis on the subject of terrorism that was presented in a book titled, "Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism," by Robert Rape. There is also a lecture on this on Youtube, in which the author provides a collection of many different facts and data about terrorist attacks that occurred around the world from 1980 to 2003.
So, I googled that guy's name to see if that was just an unfortunate misspelling, and even though it was, it turns out there are twelve Robert Rapes in the U.S.
Worst last name ever.
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(January 31, 2014 at 11:15 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I said the correlation is persuasive. I didn't say it was true Rayaan
But still, the word "persuasive" implicates that something is closer to being "true" than "false," or more likely to be true.
So if that ^ was the point you wanted get across ... then that is not true either.
Don't play word games with me Kichi.
Again you fail, I am not interested in your point only that in today's society the words terrorism and religion are quite persuasively conjoined. I agree that it is inaccurate. And don't try to dictate word games with me young man. You are the one trying to word game your religion out of popular opinion. Persuasive only implies that the gullible will fall for it nothing more. The rest of your defensive rhetoric is unwarranted.
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(February 1, 2014 at 3:55 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Again you fail, I am not interested in your point only that in today's society the words terrorism and religion are quite persuasively conjoined.
Fair enough.
(February 1, 2014 at 3:55 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I agree that it is inaccurate.
1. Then why did you give a kudos to Tripwire's post when he said "Religion, terrorism, really the same thing" if you think that is not accurate? And then you made a post simply re-instating the popular opinion without even correcting him ...
2. You didn't specify whether or not your sentence "But the correlation between terrorism and ALL religions is rather persuasive" was just the popular opinion, thus making it sound to me as if that was your own point of view. So, you should have clarified that before.
2. In one post, you yourself joined the word "terrorism" right next to the word "Islam" (in the quote below):
(March 5, 2013 at 10:50 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Persia kept knowledge alive during the "Dark ages" then iSlam was inflicted on the Persian sates and now we have nothing but this iSlamic terrorism overshadowing anything that even remotely smacks of knowledge.