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RE: Problem of evil
December 20, 2013 at 5:01 pm
(December 20, 2013 at 4:54 pm)feeling Wrote: (December 20, 2013 at 4:53 pm)Yael Wrote: Our choice would be limited to choosing God. By creating the option to choose the opposite, in a way I think God created evil.![Thinking Thinking](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/thinking.gif)
What do you mean choosing god? For what?
Looking backward, we recall our ancestry.
Looking forward, we confront our destiny.
Looking backward, we reflect on our origins.
Looking forward, we choose our path.
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RE: Problem of evil
December 20, 2013 at 5:34 pm
(December 20, 2013 at 4:50 pm)feeling Wrote: (December 20, 2013 at 4:44 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: You're stupid. ![Big Grin Big Grin](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I don't know, I'm not really arguing this shit; however, I fail to understand your objection. People create shit in the lab, or saturate monkeys with perfume; all for a "purpose" beyond the scope of the experimentee.
So god is experimenting on us? He doesn't need to if he is omniscient and we are not(people do shit in lab to find more about the world). And we are not omnipotent either so we can't control all the suffering.
Why you gotta come up with alla this presuppositionalist bullshit? Your question asks about simply the "greatness of god," not alla this omni shit.
And I get like this 'cause Imma prophet - I remember standing before the creator of the universe - and in no sense was god either "omni" nor "unnatural." Just sayin'.
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RE: Problem of evil
December 20, 2013 at 6:18 pm
(December 20, 2013 at 4:05 pm)feeling Wrote: The arguments I begin to hear all the time from agnostics is that god is too great to give a shit about our suffering. How does that work out?
Do you mean deists, not agnostics?
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RE: Problem of evil
December 20, 2013 at 8:04 pm
(December 20, 2013 at 4:05 pm)feeling Wrote: The arguments I begin to hear all the time from agnostics is that god is too great to give a shit about our suffering. How does that work out?
Watch this video, I believe it explains everything you need to know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC3FW_RU-GI
(I never understood how people listened to this song and thought it was inspirational or positive.)
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RE: Problem of evil
December 20, 2013 at 8:05 pm
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(December 20, 2013 at 4:50 pm)feeling Wrote: (December 20, 2013 at 4:44 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: You're stupid. ![Big Grin Big Grin](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I don't know, I'm not really arguing this shit; however, I fail to understand your objection. People create shit in the lab, or saturate monkeys with perfume; all for a "purpose" beyond the scope of the experimentee.
So god is experimenting on us? He doesn't need to if he is omniscient and we are not(people do shit in lab to find more about the world). And we are not omnipotent either so we can't control all the suffering.
Perhaps their god is actually a scientist ... Mind Blown
It kinda explains a lot...
1 Multiple races and hundreds of languages. (Lets see if they can keep from killing each other?)
2 Africa (Oh yeah, I'll bet you these idiots will still try living here.)
3 Sadistic experiments: childbirth, tumors, parasites, etc etc (Lets see if these dumb humans can discover cures.)
4 A planet covered in SALT water. I mean come on! (Yeah, I should've double-checked before I clicked the Finish button)
5 We already know he's evil and as an evil scientist he would definitely not wish to reveal himself. (Awe, hell no!)
6 Gay people. (I'll bet you this is gonna be so much fun to watch.)
7 He completely aborted his first trial run. (Oops. Lets have a flood.)
list goes on forever. Hey maybe you're onto something.
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RE: Problem of evil
December 20, 2013 at 8:42 pm
(December 20, 2013 at 8:05 pm)Cinjin Wrote: 1 Multiple races and hundreds of languages. (Lets see if they can keep from killing each other?)
2 Africa (Oh yeah, I'll bet you these idiots will still try living here.)
3 Sadistic experiments: childbirth, tumors, parasites, etc etc (Lets see if these dumb humans can discover cures.)
4 A planet covered in SALT water. I mean come on! (Yeah, I should've double-checked before I clicked the Finish button)
5 We already know he's evil and as an evil scientist he would definitely not wish to reveal himself. (Awe, hell no!)
6 Gay people. (I'll bet you this is gonna be so much fun to watch.)
7 He completely aborted his first trial run. (Oops. Lets have a flood.)
8 Australia And they thought Africa was bad! They're fucked for sure!!
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RE: Problem of evil
December 20, 2013 at 9:17 pm
(December 20, 2013 at 8:05 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Perhaps their god is actually a scientist ... Mind Blown
It kinda explains a lot...
1 Multiple races and hundreds of languages. (Lets see if they can keep from killing each other?)
2 Africa (Oh yeah, I'll bet you these idiots will still try living here.)
3 Sadistic experiments: childbirth, tumors, parasites, etc etc (Lets see if these dumb humans can discover cures.)
4 A planet covered in SALT water. I mean come on! (Yeah, I should've double-checked before I clicked the Finish button)
5 We already know he's evil and as an evil scientist he would definitely not wish to reveal himself. (Awe, hell no!)
6 Gay people. (I'll bet you this is gonna be so much fun to watch.)
7 He completely aborted his first trial run. (Oops. Lets have a flood.)
list goes on forever. Hey maybe you're onto something. ![Undecided Undecided](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/undecided.gif)
Ain't no joke, I remember standing before the creator of the universe; and ours is the third, and god evolved from machine intelligence...
But I wouldn't be a good prophet if I could not tell a story
And I could not be a good atheist without reminding you, it is a story.
the tao that can be told is not the eternal tao.
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