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Church of Scientology
November 16, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Saw this on my e-mail server home page:
http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Scientolo...orm=msnhal
I read part of this article today: http://www.tampabay.com/news/article1012148.ece
Quiet an interesting read, I had to stop midway cause it was getting to violent. I had to flee.
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RE: Church of Scientology
November 16, 2009 at 6:33 pm
(November 16, 2009 at 3:30 pm)Amphora Wrote: Quiet an interesting read, I had to stop midway cause it was getting to violent. I had to flee.
I have OT 1-9, the History of Man, the Problems of Work and miscellaneous creepy letters that come from the CoS to my house's mailstop. I've read OT 1-9 and HoM and presented what I learned to BASS recently. I've never seen so many questions asked in the vein of "Are you shitting us?"
It is impressive to me how much these books read like bad science fiction with a tone of "I know this and you don't" and yet still be bought for 30$ a copy with a thousand dollar investment in being trained on how to read it. Hubbard is clearly mad.
I'd recommend the History of Man for starting out to understand Scientology. It allows for an objective eye to see easily how he (Hubbard) bastardizes evolution to fit his own ideology.
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RE: Church of Scientology
November 16, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Ron L. Hubbard was anything but mad, he was a genius. He saw the financial potential of starting his own religion years before he started the church of Scientology.
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RE: Church of Scientology
November 17, 2009 at 11:12 am
Leo,
You beat me to it! I think Hubbard is a genius too and obviously a somewhat talented actor because he has convinced plenty of people that his ideas are serious! It does make sense to me why people are into his methods; they seem like science and promise to "clear" you of your reactive mind which sounds good.
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RE: Church of Scientology
November 18, 2009 at 12:21 am
I disagree that Hubbard is a genius on grounds that ridiculous pseudo religions occur all the time from Cargo cults to the next occurrence of the Moonies (Those who believe Rev. Moon is Jesus) or Harun Yahya. People will believe in things regardless of direct mind working to facilitate that belief or even with marginal minds at best, as in the case of Adnan Oktar (Harun Yahya) and his inability to comprehend evolution, still looking for "intermediate fossils" with fully developed traits. Then again, I will grant L. Ron some slack for at least explaining evolution correctly in his books so far (that I've got my hands on).
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RE: Church of Scientology
November 18, 2009 at 4:26 am
Ah, but cargo cults are created by people who do not fully comprehend how transportation works, they have no malice or special interest vested in their religion. Moonies are not the ones coming up with the religion, they roll into it. Hubbard on the other hand created the CoS understanding very well that what he preached was absolute bullshit and was a lucrative business opportunity. The followers of the CoS you can compare to the Moonies and cargo cultists, not Hubbard himself (and arguably Sun Myung Moon).
Oktar is just an islamic creationist fucktard and does not compare to any of the religion founders.
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RE: Church of Scientology
November 18, 2009 at 9:26 pm
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2009 at 9:26 pm by theblindferrengi.)
Scientology is an awsome scam, their website has videos that explain scientology supposedly, but the videos are so vague and say the generic "we believe in what is good". Almost as funny as president Bush Jr., although he didn't barf al over the president of Japan.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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RE: Church of Scientology
November 19, 2009 at 2:50 am
lol, scientology, genius.
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RE: Church of Scientology
November 19, 2009 at 5:31 am
(November 18, 2009 at 9:26 pm)theblindferrengi Wrote: Scientology is an awsome scam, their website has videos that explain scientology supposedly, but the videos are so vague and say the generic "we believe in what is good". Almost as funny as president Bush Jr., although he didn't barf al over the president of Japan.
Followers of the Church of Scientology are not allowed to talk about the details of the CoS, and with good reason. You need to get vigorously brainwashed proper training in the understanding of the doctrine before you can even talk to your fellow Scientologists about Xenu in public and even then they'd rather you didn't.
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RE: Church of Scientology
November 19, 2009 at 3:44 pm
(November 19, 2009 at 5:31 am)leo-rcc Wrote: (November 18, 2009 at 9:26 pm)theblindferrengi Wrote: Scientology is an awsome scam, their website has videos that explain scientology supposedly, but the videos are so vague and say the generic "we believe in what is good". Almost as funny as president Bush Jr., although he didn't barf al over the president of Japan.
Followers of the Church of Scientology are not allowed to talk about the details of the CoS, and with good reason. You need to get vigorously brainwashed proper training in the understanding of the doctrine before you can even talk to your fellow Scientologists about Xenu in public and even then they'd rather you didn't.
'Cause your head might asplode! No, really.
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