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RE: Introduction
November 19, 2009 at 10:46 am
(November 19, 2009 at 10:42 am)Dotard Wrote: Are you that same Michael that found a nickel? Found a nickel all shiney and new?
Brought you a whole lot of candy? Is that what you were gonna do?
Hmmmmm, not sure how to respond to that.
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Anyone care to date themselves and admit they remember that one?
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RE: Introduction
November 19, 2009 at 10:50 am
Probably a nursery rhyme that we never had in the Netherlands. 
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RE: Introduction
November 19, 2009 at 10:53 am
Yes, your probably right ! LOL!
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RE: Introduction
November 19, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Great story Michael. I'm sad you don't feel you can express what you're thinking with your friends.
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RE: Introduction
November 19, 2009 at 5:12 pm
(November 19, 2009 at 5:03 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Great story Michael. I'm sad you don't feel you can express what you're thinking with your friends.
Well thank you. I feel better already just having this place to vent the past 2 days. I guess I'm not so alone.
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RE: Introduction
November 19, 2009 at 6:01 pm
OMG! I feel exactly the same way! Lets go out for coffee sometime. Do you happen to live in the Pacific NW? I have those born again people in my family now. Puke. God this and god that, but If I dare say there is no god then all hell breaks loose. I must be a heathen 
(November 19, 2009 at 10:31 am)1129banks Wrote: Well, I want to thank everyone for responding and welcoming me. It certainly feels good to have a place to go where you feel accepted and listened to without feeling like an outcast. It seems only the last few years of my life (I'll be 45 in a couple weeks), especially the past 2 years or so that I so strongly believe that Religion not only does not have any place in modern society but that it is dangerous. For fear of sounding like an extremist (and it doesn't take much as an Atheist to sound extreme, just admitting it seems to do it! LOL!) and alienating my mostly Christian friends I usually say nothing but I feel compelled to vent here because I don't feel I will offend anyone. I don't wish to offend anyone in life, ever.
........Sometimes I feel like I’m the only sane person among my seemingly normal friends. It is so disturbing to be surrounded by people who believe in something that simply does not exist and the constant references to it..."God willing", "god bless you", "I’ll pray for this and that", etc.....it just seems to saturate my environment and it makes no sense to me. Even when I drive by a church on Sunday and see gaggles of people streaming in or out I actually look at them in my mind like they are insane....I mean, they are gathering to pray, worship, give money to, etc....something or someone who does not exist. It's frightening when you really think about it but the very few times I have ever been in an exchange with anyone over it (and it's only when they pursue it first, I'm not that stupid anymore to bring it up first!) they seem so completely closed minded over ANY discussion about it. When I hear the word "faith" I know I have truly lost any chance of the conversation being discussed intelligently. How can you combat that word when it gets thrown in?
Hey, as a person, a good person and a good father (in my opinion!) I not only try to be tolerant of others beliefs, I AM tolerant of them but I need to get something off my chest, something I have not and cannot express to any of my friends. I think people who believe in something or someone that there is not a shred of real evidence for and people who don’t understand that the bible (or any other holy book) was simply written by fellow human beings (not by an all knowing god or on his behalf), some of whom were violent maniacs and then actually use this information and delusion as a moral compass from which to live their life by are complete and total mindless idiots. This includes most people I know and care about. I know that sounds horrible and I don’t feel like I'm better than them I am just AMAZED at how many people believe in something because they were told it was true, not for any other reason. It's scary.
It's safe to say I won't be called upon to say the prayer for thanksgiving dinner next week, My "Rub-a-Dub-Dub, thanks for the grub" prayer a couple years ago didn't go over so well with the family and still has my "Born Again" sister and her drunkard husband thinking I just might be Satan himself. LOL! I may have over did it with thanking the almighty Bill Gates for bringing the Xbox 360 into my life and dissin' God/Jesus by not mentioning him but that drew a chuckle from my son and his goofy friend. I took advantage of my little scrap of power, hey it was my house. LOL! My sister did get her prayer in and even asked Jesus to forgive me for my ignorance so I think I'll be ok. : )
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RE: Introduction
November 19, 2009 at 8:43 pm
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OMG! I feel exactly the same way! Lets go out for coffee sometime. Do you happen to live in the Pacific NW? I have those born again people in my family now. Puke. God this and god that, but If I dare say there is no god then all hell breaks loose. I must be a heathen
I wish I could! I'm on the east coast.....would be awesome but an expensive cup of coffee! 
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RE: Introduction
November 19, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Then I guess it will be virtual coffee
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RE: Introduction
November 23, 2009 at 5:18 am
(November 19, 2009 at 11:16 pm)binny Wrote: Then I guess it will be virtual coffee
Guess you'll have to do with only me in the Pacific W. Only a ways down in sunny California.
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RE: Introduction
November 26, 2009 at 5:54 pm
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