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RE: What is your strongest reason for believing atheism is true?
December 27, 2013 at 2:35 pm
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(December 27, 2013 at 12:27 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Nineteen - is theism a religion?
I'll give you a hint - no, it is not. There are theistic religions just as there are atheistic religions. Someone calling themselves a 'theist' is not specifying a religion just as someone calling themselves an atheist. Theism and atheism are descriptive of the claim of god, not any doctrine surrounding them.
Apparently its being away from religion but it works like a religion , its a belief type , a political system , an ideology .
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RE: What is your strongest reason for believing atheism is true?
December 27, 2013 at 2:37 pm
(December 27, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Nineteen Wrote: Apparently its being away from religion but it works like a religion , its a belief type , a political system , an ideology .
Most of that is in response to the unwanted intrusion of religion into people's lives. Aside from that, I live a life now similar to that which I did when I was religious, with the obvious difference being that I do not do any of the religious things (pray, go to church, proselytize, etc). For me, atheism is exactly like not having a religion at all.
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RE: What is your strongest reason for believing atheism is true?
December 27, 2013 at 2:39 pm
(December 27, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Nineteen Wrote: Apparently its being away from religion but it works like a religion , its a belief type , a political system , an ideology .
Ok, why don't you tell me some of the beliefs of atheism? What is our political system? What is our ideology, as atheists?
I'm sure the answer, if one is given, should be quite entertaining.
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RE: What is your strongest reason for believing atheism is true?
December 27, 2013 at 2:45 pm
(December 27, 2013 at 2:39 pm)TaraJo Wrote: (December 27, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Nineteen Wrote: Apparently its being away from religion but it works like a religion , its a belief type , a political system , an ideology .
Ok, why don't you tell me some of the beliefs of atheism? What is our political system? What is our ideology, as atheists?
I'm sure the answer, if one is given, should be quite entertaining.
Yeah, I want to hear this too.
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RE: What is your strongest reason for believing atheism is true?
December 27, 2013 at 2:48 pm
There is one consistency across Atheism - a disbelief in deities. But go right ahead and tell us more about the implications of atheism, nineteen. Might I add - most of us have debated fellow atheists over ideas.
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RE: What is your strongest reason for believing atheism is true?
December 27, 2013 at 2:53 pm
(December 27, 2013 at 2:39 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Ok, why don't you tell me some of the beliefs of atheism? What is our political system? What is our ideology, as atheists?
I'm sure the answer, if one is given, should be quite entertaining.
The most important rule is there is no rule . Everything can be shaped in terms of time and according to one's wishes . Such as something that is considered as unethical can be ethical at a later time or may vary from person to person according to self intrests . For example there were persons who were marry with their own daughters in Sweden while I was living there . Sweden is a country with population of atheist majority . This was perfectly natural behavior there . Also there were so interesting persons , one of them was with long mustaches and beards , but the same person was wearing a skirt , he was a homo , world's weirdest homo . A country with zero ethics . Scandinavian countries are able to include it .
Your politic and ideologic understanding is based on your belief and evolving to support atheism .
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RE: What is your strongest reason for believing atheism is true?
December 27, 2013 at 3:08 pm
(December 27, 2013 at 2:53 pm)Nineteen Wrote: The most important rule is there is no rule . Everything can be shaped in terms of time and according to one's wishes
Bravo! And yet you you say it's a religion with dogma.
Quote:For example there were persons who were marry with their own daughters in Sweden while I was living there
Bullshit. It's against Swedish law (unless they were adoptive daughters).
Quote:Sweden is a country with population of atheist majority
And yet it is the muslim (and other immigrant population) who break the most laws.
Quote:Also there were so interesting persons , one of them was with long mustaches and beards , but the same person was wearing a skirt , he was a homo , world's weirdest homo . A country with zero ethics . Scandinavian countries are able to include it
And this has to do with "atheistic dogma" just how? And how good of you to judge a book by it's covers, you vain and vapid cunt.
Quote:Your politic and ideologic understanding is based on your belief and evolving to support atheism .
So, 10$ question, what is that political and ideological stance, pray tell?
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RE: What is your strongest reason for believing atheism is true?
December 27, 2013 at 3:11 pm
(December 27, 2013 at 2:53 pm)Nineteen Wrote: (December 27, 2013 at 2:39 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Ok, why don't you tell me some of the beliefs of atheism? What is our political system? What is our ideology, as atheists?
I'm sure the answer, if one is given, should be quite entertaining.
The most important rule is there is no rule . Everything can be shaped in terms of time and according to one's wishes . Such as something that is considered as unethical can be ethical at a later time or may vary from person to person according to self intrests . For example there were persons who were marry with their own daughters in Sweden while I was living there . Sweden is a country with population of atheist majority . This was perfectly natural behavior there . Also there were so interesting persons , one of them was with long mustaches and beards , but the same person was wearing a skirt , he was a homo , world's weirdest homo . A country with zero ethics . Scandinavian countries are able to include it .
Your politic and ideologic understanding is based on your belief and evolving to support atheism .
News flash, lady: Atheism isn't about morality. Right is right, whether there's a god or not. Wrong is wrong by the same principal.
If you want to discuss how ethics change with time, we can do that. Religion is hardly clean there, either, since holy books like the Koran and the Bible have their patriarchs approving of slavery, rape and child brides (didn't Mohammed marry six year olds?). Now we dismiss those on religious principals, but they're still in the book. I mean, it's really funny if you try to talk about race with Mormons; or polygamy.
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RE: What is your strongest reason for believing atheism is true?
December 27, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Anyway , one of the things I dont like is jumping from issue to issue . You cant stay in one issue . I dont want to talk more , please read my past posts to get answers .
Salaam .
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RE: What is your strongest reason for believing atheism is true?
December 27, 2013 at 3:29 pm
(December 27, 2013 at 3:19 pm)Nineteen Wrote: Anyway , one of the things I dont like is jumping from issue to issue . You cant stay in one issue . I dont want to talk more , please read my past posts to get answers .
Salaam .
Translation;
"You called me out on my bullshit..."
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