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Neo Paganism
#61
RE: Neo Paganism
(March 9, 2014 at 12:52 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: And I'm still not understanding why it's okay for you to use "gay" to describe something as stupid just because an asshole had a high IQ. Please answer the question instead of assuming I don't know who people are or basic facts - something you've been doing throughout this whole conversation.

Leftists,feminists, and minority activists blame white males and western civilization for the opresssion of women homosexuals and minorities. this is claiming that slavery for example is a crime that only the white man is capable of atoning for. Also to claim that women carry a burden that men do not due to child birth is saying that all of the suffering of blacks, native americans, and hispanics, were caused by men that only white women were capable of producing. Also I would like to point out to all of those advocates of multiculturalism, equal oppurtunity education, and racial intermarridge. simply by standing for these things you are saying that you believe that black culture is inferior and that the white man NEEDED TO ERASE IT AND REPLACE IT WITH CHRISTIANITY because what else would he practice?
do white men or women that marry blacks care about reconstructing traditional african culture? of course on they don't give a damn what they do care about is sending that child off to play sports and attend a good school. Why are these two examples important because 1 in the south blacks were not allowed to read and for awhile after the civil war not allowed to recieve an education. 2. blacks then protested for the right to participate in the same professional sports as whites. So I ask all of the proponets of thisi ideology in what way the preservation or reconstruction of traditional black culture consist if they are being compensated with an education and participation in sports designed by whites ? so to everyone that identifies themselves as left on this channel fuck you.Also univsersity texbooks state that islam expanded through trade. Thus, the eu and the us wish to make hispanics and arabs nonviolentr through gun control and government sponsored education assistance. All they care about is making these people into a responsible father, making they climb the corporate ladder ect. do they have any respect for mexican or arab culture. Well I think I just anwsered your question. can you solve this dilemma ? if so then ill shut up ok
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#62
RE: Neo Paganism
So... you're an angry white man.

Gotcha.
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#63
RE: Neo Paganism
(March 9, 2014 at 12:55 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: So... you're an angry white man.

Gotcha.

no that did not answer my question you said you were offended at my "slander" at gays i said that you wanted gays to be more like heretosexual white males.
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#64
RE: Neo Paganism
(March 9, 2014 at 12:58 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: no that did not answer my question you said you were offended at my "slander" at gays i said that you wanted gays to be more like heretosexual white males.

I said you were an asshole for doing it - I never said I wanted gays to be like heterosexual white men. Nor do you know fuck all about what I think about oppression or history, since you've barely met me and can't seem to actually answer the original questions involved in this discussion, but must divert to blocks of ranty text starting with words which immediately alert me to you actually being more bigoted than informed.
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#65
RE: Neo Paganism
(March 9, 2014 at 1:00 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:
(March 9, 2014 at 12:58 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: no that did not answer my question you said you were offended at my "slander" at gays i said that you wanted gays to be more like heretosexual white males.

I said you were an asshole for doing it - I never said I wanted gays to be like heterosexual white men. Nor do you know fuck all about what I think about oppression or history, since you've barely met me and can't seem to actually answer the original questions involved in this discussion, but must divert to blocks of ranty text starting with words which immediately alert me to you actually being more bigoted than informed.

i am not bigoted i simply used the word gay in a sentence and you said i was like homophobic wtf. Then what I did was point out contradictions that are going on in modern society. And yes wicca is gay people should stop doing it. I dont know why i have no logical basis for it but they should

(March 9, 2014 at 1:00 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:
(March 9, 2014 at 12:58 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: no that did not answer my question you said you were offended at my "slander" at gays i said that you wanted gays to be more like heretosexual white males.

I said you were an asshole for doing it - I never said I wanted gays to be like heterosexual white men. Nor do you know fuck all about what I think about oppression or history, since you've barely met me and can't seem to actually answer the original questions involved in this discussion, but must divert to blocks of ranty text starting with words which immediately alert me to you actually being more bigoted than informed.

and people can use dirty languge to describe things they dont like if they want to there shouldnt be hate speech laws like in europe the way your thinking will lead us there
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#66
RE: Neo Paganism
(March 9, 2014 at 1:04 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: i am not bigoted i simply used the word gay in a sentence and you said i was like homophobic wtf.
People who use the word that way may not be homophobic - I didn't throw that at you, I just said it was an asshole thing to do. Generally, from ignorance.

(March 9, 2014 at 1:04 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: Then what I did was point out contradictions that are going on in modern society.
None of those were on the topic, and many of them are sweeping generalizations with no back-up material to them.

(March 9, 2014 at 1:04 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: And yes wicca is gay people should stop doing it. I dont know why i have no logical basis for it but they should

If you have no logical basis or evidential basis, I don't see why people should stop doing it just because YOU think it's "stupid". How about YOU don't practice it, and then maybe come back when you can come up with a more specific reason that doesn't make you sound like a 13 year old with a grudge.
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#67
RE: Neo Paganism
(March 9, 2014 at 1:07 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:
(March 9, 2014 at 1:04 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: i am not bigoted i simply used the word gay in a sentence and you said i was like homophobic wtf.
People who use the word that way may not be homophobic - I didn't throw that at you, I just said it was an asshole thing to do. Generally, from ignorance.

(March 9, 2014 at 1:04 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: Then what I did was point out contradictions that are going on in modern society.
None of those were on the topic, and many of them are sweeping generalizations with no back-up material to them.

(March 9, 2014 at 1:04 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: And yes wicca is gay people should stop doing it. I dont know why i have no logical basis for it but they should

If you have no logical basis or evidential basis, I don't see why people should stop doing it just because YOU think it's "stupid". How about YOU don't practice it, and then maybe come back when you can come up with a more specific reason that doesn't make you sound like a 13 year old with a grudge.

fine im leaving for awhile but if you want to know why we got so easily side tracked its because wicca has no strong religious or philosophical basis
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#68
RE: Neo Paganism
(March 9, 2014 at 1:10 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: fine im leaving for awhile but if you want to know why we got so easily side tracked its because wicca has no strong religious or philosophical basis

You got easily side-tracked. I didn't.

Being as I know Wiccans, I would argue it doesn't suffer against other religions - it simply doesn't have as many old men jerking off about it.

And yes, you probably should go - you're really only making yourself look worse and worse.
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#69
RE: Neo Paganism
(March 9, 2014 at 1:13 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:
(March 9, 2014 at 1:10 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: fine im leaving for awhile but if you want to know why we got so easily side tracked its because wicca has no strong religious or philosophical basis

You got easily side-tracked. I didn't.

Being as I know Wiccans, I would argue it doesn't suffer against other religions - it simply doesn't have as many old men jerking off about it.

And yes, you probably should go - you're really only making yourself look worse and worse.

i noticed that when it comes to religion you take a sort of libertarian approach( you know as long as i'm not bothering anybody else its ok). But when it comes to social stratification you take a more collectivist approach . And with respect to social oppression throughout history in the west it is mostly concerned with christianity judiasm and islam. This means you see paganism and wicca as sort of second tier indie regions
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#70
RE: Neo Paganism
I see them as religion - religion is not "tiered." I don't respect any philosophy or religion that reject evidence-based explanations. However, once you're a legal adult, in the privacy of your home or a privately owned house of worship, you can worship what you want barring abusing others.

You calling Wicca "gay" insults gay people. This is not something made up by a minority of activists as your Unabomber quote suggests, but an Actual Thing you can find out from the LGBT community, should you choose to look outside of your little world that makes you use words like "leftist".
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