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Sex and an omniscient God
#21
RE: Sex and an omniscient God
(January 10, 2014 at 12:20 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(January 4, 2014 at 11:35 am)Drich Wrote: That is one of the reasons Christ was born into humanity.. So He could experience ALL of the same emotions and sin we are tempted by.

Unless you can furnish scriptural evidence that Jesus experienced a multi-orgasmic squirter with an attenuated gag reflex, a penchant for occasional bum sex, and a deep need to be spanked, I'm afraid I have to call bullshit.
Mark 16:31 forward.
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#22
RE: Sex and an omniscient God
(January 10, 2014 at 12:14 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(January 10, 2014 at 11:50 am)Drich Wrote: We don't know that Jesus wasn't married for sure.

even so one does not have to be married to experience sexual urges and desire. We know Christ was well aware of these desires because of what He said in Mat 5 (if you look at a woman lustfully your guilty of commiting adultry.) This awareness of lust means He was tempted by it at some point.

And yet so many christians rush to tell me that Jesus was sinless... Thinking

Also, incidentally, an unmarried man can't commit adultery, by definition. Just saying.
Yeah but those Christians are wrong, obviously.

Come one Esq, you're usually more clued up on shit like this.
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#23
RE: Sex and an omniscient God
(January 10, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:
(January 10, 2014 at 12:14 pm)Esquilax Wrote: And yet so many christians rush to tell me that Jesus was sinless... Thinking

Also, incidentally, an unmarried man can't commit adultery, by definition. Just saying.
Yeah but those Christians are wrong, obviously.

Come one Esq, you're usually more clued up on shit like this.

I think it has something to do with Schroedinger's Jesus:
Syllogism:
All (men?) have sinned and fallen short....yada yada
Jesus was a man.
Therefore hey wait a minute.

Generally I find Christian theists waffle on either the meaning of "all" or on whether or not Jesus was all man (heresy) all God (heresy) or something else (undefined).
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
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#24
RE: Sex and an omniscient God
(January 4, 2014 at 11:35 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 4, 2014 at 7:43 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: God is supposed to be free from all "negative" human emotion. Well if that's so how is he omniscient? What about lust and sexual desire? If we are made gods image but he knows nothing about human sexuality how can we be of his image? How can he in turn know everything there is to know about the human condition? He cannot even understand our need to procreate/pleasure ourselves. This question is mostly aimed at Christians.

That is one of the reasons Christ was born into humanity.. So He could experience ALL of the same emotions and sin we are tempted by.

Are you saying that jesus got laid?
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#25
RE: Sex and an omniscient God
(January 10, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Yeah but those Christians are wrong, obviously.

Come one Esq, you're usually more clued up on shit like this.

Figures. It just seems like Drich is throwing away the entire premise of Jesus, here. If he isn't sinless, than he must have sinned, and if he's sinned he's certainly not such a divine offering on the cross that he could take all of our sins onto himself. In that case, he'd actually escaped the punishment that, in christian logic, we was fully deserving of.

I mean, what the hell, Drich? If all sinners go to hell, and Jesus sinned, then why was he the exception that goes to heaven? And what made him so special that he can take all of our sins too? Doesn't it seem a little... unfair that he was essentially appealing to himself for forgiveness? Thinking

Please, tell me if I'm missing something here. This is just an extrapolation from your very vague initial posts.
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#26
RE: Sex and an omniscient God
(January 10, 2014 at 5:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(January 4, 2014 at 11:35 am)Drich Wrote: That is one of the reasons Christ was born into humanity.. So He could experience ALL of the same emotions and sin we are tempted by.

Are you saying that jesus got laid?

Why else would he have prostitutes around.
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Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
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#27
RE: Sex and an omniscient God
(January 4, 2014 at 7:43 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: God is supposed to be free from all "negative" human emotion. Well if that's so how is he omniscient? What about lust and sexual desire? If we are made gods image but he knows nothing about human sexuality how can we be of his image? How can he in turn know everything there is to know about the human condition? He cannot even understand our need to procreate/pleasure ourselves. This question is mostly aimed at Christians.

Read the Songs of Solomon, should help you see.

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