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RE: Sex and an omniscient God
January 10, 2014 at 11:33 am
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(January 10, 2014 at 2:33 am)xr34p3rx Wrote: (January 10, 2014 at 1:52 am)Drich Wrote: As the Canadians say: sorey aboot that.
Why?
That is not what you said in post number 3. Do I need to re post it for you?
Uhhhh. You wrote that. I messed up on the quote part. Re read it so yes.
Rx34 Wrote:then god is not good, if he knows what all that fells like, and its "bad", the argument is automatically destroyed. God cant be good Period!
"All that feels like" in the context of what you said refers to sex in general. Because you made no distinction between sexual experiences and deemed them bad, you are inferring all sexual experience is bad.
Which is why I asked why do you think all sexual experience is bad?
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RE: Sex and an omniscient God
January 10, 2014 at 11:45 am
(January 10, 2014 at 11:33 am)Drich Wrote: "All that feels like" in the context of what you said refers to sex in general. Because you made no distinction between sexual experiences and deemed them bad, you are inferring all sexual experience is bad.
Which is why I asked why do you think all sexual experience is bad?
I think- though he can correct me if I'm wrong- that he was arguing from a biblical position there, not one that he necessarily holds himself. If sex before marriage is adultery, and Jesus was never married, and he experienced sex...
Not to mention, the bible is pretty down on sex to begin with. 
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RE: Sex and an omniscient God
January 10, 2014 at 11:50 am
(January 10, 2014 at 11:45 am)Esquilax Wrote: (January 10, 2014 at 11:33 am)Drich Wrote: "All that feels like" in the context of what you said refers to sex in general. Because you made no distinction between sexual experiences and deemed them bad, you are inferring all sexual experience is bad.
Which is why I asked why do you think all sexual experience is bad?
I think- though he can correct me if I'm wrong- that he was arguing from a biblical position there, not one that he necessarily holds himself. If sex before marriage is adultery, and Jesus was never married, and he experienced sex...
Not to mention, the bible is pretty down on sex to begin with. We don't know that Jesus wasn't married for sure.
even so one does not have to be married to experience sexual urges and desire. We know Christ was well aware of these desires because of what He said in Mat 5 (if you look at a woman lustfully your guilty of commiting adultry.) This awareness of lust means He was tempted by it at some point.
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RE: Sex and an omniscient God
January 10, 2014 at 11:57 am
(January 4, 2014 at 11:35 am)Drich Wrote: (January 4, 2014 at 7:43 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: God is supposed to be free from all "negative" human emotion. Well if that's so how is he omniscient? What about lust and sexual desire? If we are made gods image but he knows nothing about human sexuality how can we be of his image? How can he in turn know everything there is to know about the human condition? He cannot even understand our need to procreate/pleasure ourselves. This question is mostly aimed at Christians.
That is one of the reasons Christ was born into humanity.. So He could experience ALL of the same emotions and sin we are tempted by.
...Without the possibility of ever actually succumbing to it. How cute.
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RE: Sex and an omniscient God
January 10, 2014 at 12:10 pm
(January 10, 2014 at 11:57 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: (January 4, 2014 at 11:35 am)Drich Wrote: That is one of the reasons Christ was born into humanity.. So He could experience ALL of the same emotions and sin we are tempted by.
...Without the possibility of ever actually succumbing to it. How cute.
If there wasn't a possiablity, Satan would not have taken the time to temp Christ in that 40 days He spent in the desert.
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RE: Sex and an omniscient God
January 10, 2014 at 12:14 pm
(January 10, 2014 at 11:50 am)Drich Wrote: We don't know that Jesus wasn't married for sure.
even so one does not have to be married to experience sexual urges and desire. We know Christ was well aware of these desires because of what He said in Mat 5 (if you look at a woman lustfully your guilty of commiting adultry.) This awareness of lust means He was tempted by it at some point.
And yet so many christians rush to tell me that Jesus was sinless... 
Also, incidentally, an unmarried man can't commit adultery, by definition. Just saying.
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RE: Sex and an omniscient God
January 10, 2014 at 12:20 pm
(January 4, 2014 at 11:35 am)Drich Wrote: That is one of the reasons Christ was born into humanity.. So He could experience ALL of the same emotions and sin we are tempted by.
Unless you can furnish scriptural evidence that Jesus experienced a multi-orgasmic squirter with an attenuated gag reflex, a penchant for occasional bum sex, and a deep need to be spanked, I'm afraid I have to call bullshit.
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RE: Sex and an omniscient God
January 10, 2014 at 12:22 pm
(January 4, 2014 at 7:43 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: God is supposed to be free from all "negative" human emotion. Well if that's so how is he omniscient? What about lust and sexual desire? If we are made gods image but he knows nothing about human sexuality how can we be of his image? How can he in turn know everything there is to know about the human condition? He cannot even understand our need to procreate/pleasure ourselves. This question is mostly aimed at Christians.
Where did you learn that god was free of all negative human emotion? I'm sure its well documented in the bible that god feels anger and so on.
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RE: Sex and an omniscient God
January 10, 2014 at 12:43 pm
That's just what Christians say that doesn't mean I think it's true
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RE: Sex and an omniscient God
January 10, 2014 at 2:41 pm
(January 10, 2014 at 12:20 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: (January 4, 2014 at 11:35 am)Drich Wrote: That is one of the reasons Christ was born into humanity.. So He could experience ALL of the same emotions and sin we are tempted by.
Unless you can furnish scriptural evidence that Jesus experienced a multi-orgasmic squirter with an attenuated gag reflex, a penchant for occasional bum sex, and a deep need to be spanked, I'm afraid I have to call bullshit. You have it backwards. He overcame such temptations.
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