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RE: [split] The word 'Nigger' and other slurs
January 13, 2014 at 1:38 am
Is it allowed, to make a split of a split?
Cuz, this sad excuse for a human being is going to keep this thread alive and I sure as fuck don't want to see its' subjectivity overshadow these forums longer than it must. Send it back to history where it came from, I say, and wash our hands of it. I myself will be unsubscribing.
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RE: [split] The word 'Nigger' and other slurs
January 13, 2014 at 4:42 am
(January 13, 2014 at 12:50 am)Sinnersburninhell100 Wrote: I don't know what a Poe is. I learned about hell growing up at Pentecostal Church. We spoke in you tongues and learned of God's grace and the fall of man. Hell is the place those who do not accept salvation through Christ choose to go. If you do not want to be ravaged by demons then read the bible and accept Jesus into your soul. You will be amazed at how wonderful your life will become.
I'm going to address this "choose to go to hell," idea, right now: I am, as of this moment, choosing not to go to hell when I die. I don't want to go.
Oh, what's that? Simply making the choice isn't enough? There's some actions I need to perform too? Then it's not really the simple choice you're trying to phrase it as, is it?
See, that's the thing: regardless of the choice I'm consciously making, where I end up is ultimately out of my hands, in your system. What if I don't want to go to either heaven or hell? Oh, I can't do that, the system is binary? So now I'm trapped between two choices, neither of which I've opted to put myself in, and neither of which I necessarily want. How is it you can push the idea that this is something freely chose, then?
If someone else imposed a dichotomous choice on you, say... a mugger threatens to stab you if you don't hand over your wallet, would you say you freely chose to hand over your wallet?
Same deal here. Same deal here.
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RE: [split] The word 'Nigger' and other slurs
January 15, 2014 at 7:55 am
(January 13, 2014 at 4:42 am)Esquilax Wrote: (January 13, 2014 at 12:50 am)Sinnersburninhell100 Wrote: I don't know what a Poe is. I learned about hell growing up at Pentecostal Church. We spoke in you tongues and learned of God's grace and the fall of man. Hell is the place those who do not accept salvation through Christ choose to go. If you do not want to be ravaged by demons then read the bible and accept Jesus into your soul. You will be amazed at how wonderful your life will become.
I'm going to address this "choose to go to hell," idea, right now: I am, as of this moment, choosing not to go to hell when I die. I don't want to go.
Oh, what's that? Simply making the choice isn't enough? There's some actions I need to perform too? Then it's not really the simple choice you're trying to phrase it as, is it?
See, that's the thing: regardless of the choice I'm consciously making, where I end up is ultimately out of my hands, in your system. What if I don't want to go to either heaven or hell? Oh, I can't do that, the system is binary? So now I'm trapped between two choices, neither of which I've opted to put myself in, and neither of which I necessarily want. How is it you can push the idea that this is something freely chose, then?
If someone else imposed a dichotomous choice on you, say... a mugger threatens to stab you if you don't hand over your wallet, would you say you freely chose to hand over your wallet?
Same deal here. Same deal here.
What a childish way of thinking, I've taught more mature children. You were, as those children understood, born into this world, accept it and learn to live with what it has to offer.
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RE: [split] The word 'Nigger' and other slurs
January 15, 2014 at 10:01 am
(January 15, 2014 at 7:55 am)Godschild Wrote: What a childish way of thinking, I've taught more mature children. You were, as those children understood, born into this world, accept it and learn to live with what it has to offer.
GC
Thats your great reply? "You are Childish"
Equilax makes perfect sense. Making someone do something under the threat of vioelnce is not giving them free choice.
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RE: [split] The word 'Nigger' and other slurs
January 15, 2014 at 10:07 am
(January 15, 2014 at 10:01 am)là bạn điên Wrote: (January 15, 2014 at 7:55 am)Godschild Wrote: What a childish way of thinking, I've taught more mature children. You were, as those children understood, born into this world, accept it and learn to live with what it has to offer.
GC
Thats your great reply? "You are Childish"
Equilax makes perfect sense. Making someone do something under the threat of vioelnce is not giving them free choice.
Depends on how you define free choice I guess.
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RE: [split] The word 'Nigger' and other slurs
January 15, 2014 at 10:25 am
(January 13, 2014 at 12:50 am)Sinnersburninhell100 Wrote: I don't know what a Poe is. I learned about hell growing up at Pentecostal Church. We spoke in you tongues and learned of God's grace and the fall of man. Hell is the place those who do not accept salvation through Christ choose to go. If you do not want to be ravaged by demons then read the bible and accept Jesus into your soul. You will be amazed at how wonderful your life will become.
Poe's Law states that there is nothing you can say to parody a fundamentalist that some fundamentalist wouldn't actually say. Atheists who pretend to be fundamentalists in order to make fundamentalists look foolish are hard to distinguish from real fundamentalists, and are referred to as 'Poes'. It's not a practice of which I approve, but it happens.
I was raised in the Pentecostal church, we spoke in tongues, and learned church doctrine about original sin, the fall of man, the rapture, the tribulation, and so forth.
Then I read the Bible cover-to-cover, twice, and couldn't be a Pentecostal anymore.
You guys make your God sound like a Mafia Don: 'Nice soul ya got there. It'd be a shame if something...BAD happened to it. What ya need is some protection...from what I'm gonna do to ya if you don't pay protection, see?
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RE: [split] The word 'Nigger' and other slurs
January 15, 2014 at 11:56 am
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2014 at 11:57 am by A Theist.)
There's a few forum members here who have no problem using the "N" word frequently to make a point in their replies, one in particular. Their biggest hypocrisy is pretending to defend racial tolerance and then use the terms "racist" and "nazi" to attack people who don't agree with their naive and hypocritical brand of tolerance. As far as I'm concerned, the very hypocrites preaching racial tolerance who freely use the "N" word to make a point are more the guilty of intolerant bigotry and racism.
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RE: [split] The word 'Nigger' and other slurs
January 15, 2014 at 1:58 pm
(January 15, 2014 at 11:56 am)A Theist Wrote: As far as I'm concerned, the very hypocrites preaching racial tolerance who freely use the "N" word to make a point are more the guilty of intolerant bigotry and racism.
So you're saying simply writing the "N word" as you politely put it, is automatically racist, even when it is not used in any kind of aggressive or derogatory manner?
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RE: [split] The word 'Nigger' and other slurs
January 15, 2014 at 2:31 pm
(January 15, 2014 at 1:58 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (January 15, 2014 at 11:56 am)A Theist Wrote: As far as I'm concerned, the very hypocrites preaching racial tolerance who freely use the "N" word to make a point are more the guilty of intolerant bigotry and racism.
So you're saying simply writing the "N word" as you politely put it, is automatically racist, even when it is not used in any kind of aggressive or derogatory manner?
Saying "the N word" is the same as saying nigger.
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RE: [split] The word 'Nigger' and other slurs
January 15, 2014 at 2:49 pm
(January 15, 2014 at 7:55 am)Godschild Wrote: What a childish way of thinking, I've taught more mature children. You were, as those children understood, born into this world, accept it and learn to live with what it has to offer.
GC
Petty ad hominem attacks aren't an argument, GC.
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