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Any Other Anarchists Here?
#21
RE: Any Other Anarchists Here?
Do you not understand the absolute sickness of forced sterilization?
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#22
RE: Any Other Anarchists Here?
(January 25, 2014 at 9:33 pm)TaraJo Wrote:
(January 25, 2014 at 9:29 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: Yes. I would be opposed to the sterilization of anyone based on ethnicity.

And therin lies another problem with eugenics: everyone insists their group doesn't need any purging, but we need to get the baddies out of all the other groups.

And that doesn't even start to go into the horrible history of Eugenics in practical use. Watch the video that BrokenQuill posted if you want to hear about it.

Past that, anarchism could, potentially work, in small communities. As long as the group is small enough for everyone to know each other, anarchism (and communism) can work. Once the group gets large enough that people might not all know each other, people start turning back into people... and people can be kinda shitty.
Saying that Nazi "eugenics" makes all eugenics bad is like saying that Stalinist democracy makes all democracy bad.

(January 25, 2014 at 9:34 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Do you not understand the absolute sickness of forced sterilization?
Give one example of where I have supported forced sterilization of anyone other than fundies or mass murderers.
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#23
RE: Any Other Anarchists Here?
(January 25, 2014 at 9:35 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: Saying that Nazi "eugenics" makes all eugenics bad is like saying that Stalinist democracy makes all democracy bad.

How about American eugenics? Not that long ago, either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nshj9rCTPdE
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#24
RE: Any Other Anarchists Here?
Most sane eugenists opposed Nazi-style eugenics. Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist who spoke out against racism & Nazism.

(January 25, 2014 at 9:38 pm)TaraJo Wrote:
(January 25, 2014 at 9:35 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: Saying that Nazi "eugenics" makes all eugenics bad is like saying that Stalinist democracy makes all democracy bad.

How about American eugenics? Not that long ago, either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nshj9rCTPdE
Complete strawman. Posting something like this in order to attack eugenics is like posting a video on infanticide to attack abortion.
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#25
RE: Any Other Anarchists Here?
I'm an anarcho-capitalist. Anarchism as a socialist movement has been defunct since the marginal revolution. As far as I know, eugenics has never been an integral part of anarchist theory.
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#26
RE: Any Other Anarchists Here?
I feel as though I should point out the irony that you are promoting eugenics as an anarchist.
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#27
RE: Any Other Anarchists Here?
(January 25, 2014 at 9:55 pm)Gish Wrote: I'm an anarcho-capitalist. Anarchism as a socialist movement has been defunct since the marginal revolution. As far as I know, eugenics has never been an integral part of anarchist theory.
Anarcho-capitalism isn't anarchism nor is it feasible. Like all forms of capitalism it is far too egalitarian for me. I am communist only in the sense I support the abolition of private property. Capitalism allows lesser men to have greater wealth. Capitalism is a failed system.
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#28
RE: Any Other Anarchists Here?
(January 25, 2014 at 9:38 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: Complete strawman. Posting something like this in order to attack eugenics is like posting a video on infanticide to attack abortion.

Do you know what a strawman is?

Remember when I said I was reluctant to embrase anarchism because it has yet to be proven to work? Well, neither has eugenics. In fact, to go a step further, eugenics has been tried, repeatedly, and the end result has been disasterous. My video is just one of those attempts; there have been plenty more.

Show me one time in all of human history that eugenics has been successful. Please, I'd really like to see it.
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#29
RE: Any Other Anarchists Here?
Actually, there have been successful anarcho-capitalist societies, the most famous of which being the Icelandic Commonwealth (930 to 1262). Another well-known example is Celtic Ireland (650-1650). Bill Orton wrote a concise summary of life in the Icelandic Commonwealth and Celtic Ireland, among others, which can be found here:

http://anarchei.me/post/19248460868/have...-societies

Finally, if you have a bit of time to kill, historian Jesse Byock wrote an entire book on the Icelandic Commonwealth called Viking Age Iceland.
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#30
RE: Any Other Anarchists Here?
(January 26, 2014 at 1:22 am)Gish Wrote: Actually, there have been successful anarcho-capitalist societies, the most famous of which being the Icelandic Commonwealth (930 to 1262). Another well-known example is Celtic Ireland (650-1650). Bill Orton wrote a concise summary of life in the Icelandic Commonwealth and Celtic Ireland, among others, which can be found here:

http://anarchei.me/post/19248460868/have...-societies

Finally, if you have a bit of time to kill, historian Jesse Byock wrote an entire book on the Icelandic Commonwealth called Viking Age Iceland.
Anarcho-communism has worked as well. Look at the anarchist communities during the Spanish civil war.
Wikipedia Wrote:The Spanish example, in which high levels of mobilisation and swift improvements to production were implemented by anarchists, is often cited as an example of an anarchist-communist society which saw rapid improvements to both industrial and scientific output.
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