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Shouldn't there be more Christians with eye patches?
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RE: Shouldn't there be more Christians with eye patches?
(February 1, 2014 at 11:43 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:
(February 1, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Yeah, if you actually want to live a decent life. I would assume. It kind of goes into "Why don't christians just commit suicide right after accepting Jesus?". You still have a life to live.

I think it's a valid question, actually. This life is meaningless and this world is ephemeral according to their belief system. It's all about the supposed afterlife. What's the point in hanging around?

I think, deep down, it indicates that even the most faithful don't trust God's promises enough to proactively find out if they are legitimate.

I was taught growing up as a Christian that there were different levels in heaven. "Good Christians" would get the fancy houses and all the nice stuff. "Bad Christians" would get crappy houses or be the equivalent of being homeless in heaven. Basically, if you're a bad Christian, heaven would suck compared to everyone else and you'll just be spending eternity thinking "well, at least I'm not in hell!"
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#32
RE: Shouldn't there be more Christians with eye patches?
(February 1, 2014 at 11:49 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: I was taught growing up as a Christian that there were different levels in heaven. "Good Christians" would get the fancy houses and all the nice stuff. "Bad Christians" would get crappy houses or be the equivalent of being homeless in heaven. Basically, if you're a bad Christian, heaven would suck compared to everyone else and you'll just be spending eternity thinking "well, at least I'm not in hell!"

Maybe that's what Jesus meant about those who don't keep and teach Old Testament law being called least in the kingdom of heaven in the Sermon on the Mount, which pretty much means that every single Christian on earth is going to ghetto heaven (assuming that Jesus doesn't condemn those to hell who don't even bother trying to conform to those laws, which is, again, pretty much every Christian on earth).
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RE: Shouldn't there be more Christians with eye patches?
(February 1, 2014 at 11:43 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:
(February 1, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Yeah, if you actually want to live a decent life. I would assume. It kind of goes into "Why don't christians just commit suicide right after accepting Jesus?". You still have a life to live.

I think it's a valid question, actually. This life is meaningless and this world is ephemeral according to their belief system. It's all about the supposed afterlife and the mansions in heaven. What's the point in hanging around?

I think, deep down, it indicates that even the most faithful don't trust God's promises enough to proactively find out if they are legitimate. In this sense, Islam is at least somewhat more credible.

A big part is that you're supposed to surrender everything to Yahweh, and he's the one who decides when you die. Of course I think this whole thing is just a way for people in power to control you in this life. Otherwise why would the "infinite love and mercy" run out the moment you die? The moment you start experiencing the afterlife first hand and you see exactly which god is real is the moment when deciding to worship it is too late.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Shouldn't there be more Christians with eye patches?
(February 1, 2014 at 11:43 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I think it's a valid question, actually. This life is meaningless and this world is ephemeral according to their belief system. It's all about the supposed afterlife and the mansions in heaven. What's the point in hanging around?
Especially if you consider the time scales. The life you live in the few years you are allotted here will determine how you spend eternity elsewhere. 80 years, maybe 90. One day you'll be sitting there in heaven, and you'll stop worshiping god just long enough to realize that you've lived for 900,000 years. Which means that 0.0001% of your lifespan was the determining factor in where you ended up. Good thing you didn't slip up during the last, say, ten years (0.000011%) or you wouldn't have been lucky enough to spend the last 899,910 years bowing over and over and over and over. And there's still another whole ETERNITY to go!
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