Why are other civilizations ignored in the Bible?

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[KichigaiNeko]

Not unliken to iSlam

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Really? That is weird.... I can. Nor do I have to read the Bible to do so.

None of them overlap with Jesus' life, though.

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No worries!

Who knows, one day, you may renounce your atheism and come back to the fold as the prodigal son returned to his father after he came to his senses.

I hope not. Developing dementia when I get older is one of my greatest fears.

You hope not and yet you persistently ask for evidence for Christianity. This seems odd to me.

You hope not......

Kind of reminds me of some things other atheists have said regarding their atheism. Thomas Nagel and Aldous Huxley come to mind.

The idea of hoping God does not exist, not wanting God to exist, finding reasons to not believe in God all speak of an issue that is not an intellectual one, but rather an emotional one.

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Really? That is weird.... I can. Nor do I have to read the Bible to do so.

None of them overlap with Jesus' life, though.

I miss your point. Maybe you can elaborate?

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Gone so badly wrong? Stating that there are denominations within Christianity is one thing, to which I would agree, and then using that as an argument that things have "gone so badly wrong" is another. That is a non-sequitur logical fallacy.

Really?

Can they all be right? If they are all right - then they are all wrong in that each one claims to be the one true path and that all others are wrong.

There is a logical fallacy - but it ain't mine.

If one is right and the rest are wrong what else could it be but bad communications from God?

Quick story:

On a visit to Israel with the wife. We are at the supposed place of Jesus death. 3 churches are at war over the site. Wife is Greek Orthodox and wants to light a candle. The Greek orthodox shop is closed. We go to the open Coptic church shop. The monk, when he discovers that we want to put a candle in the Greek Orthodox part refuses to sell us one.

That is a personal experience of the mildest (but most entertaining for me) form.

I could talk about the "troubles" in Northern Ireland, Henry the 8th and his FED DEI title - awarded by the then Pope for his war on the Huguenots - obviously before he declared himself the head of the English, Protestant Church.

The council of worms. The schism between the Greek Orthodox Church and the Church of Rome. Endless wars and battles for supremacy between different sects.

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I miss your point. Maybe you can elaborate?

Well, guys from history writing about another guy who they could not possibly have met because he died before they were born isn't exactly compelling evidence for the existence of that guy, is it? People today are doing that about Christ; just the fact that it happened slightly closer to his time of life doesn't change the fact that it didn't get written while he was alive.

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One of the problems I have with the bible is the "dog that barked in the night" thing.

For eg, Matthew 27:52-53. Now I know that this was before twitter, but you'd think that if a significant number of people came back from the dead and started walking about, and indeed were "seen by many" it would get at least a mention in contemporary records. The Romans were an organised bunch, the expected dead people to stay dead. Failure to do so may have reasonably be expected to cause comment.

In other news, It must have made for some awkward "honey I'm home" conversations.

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Gone so badly wrong? Stating that there are denominations within Christianity is one thing, to which I would agree, and then using that as an argument that things have "gone so badly wrong" is another. That is a non-sequitur logical fallacy.

Really?

Can they all be right? If they are all right - then they are all wrong in that each one claims to be the one true path and that all others are wrong.

There is a logical fallacy - but it ain't mine.

If one is right and the rest are wrong what else could it be but bad communications from God?

Quick story:

On a visit to Israel with the wife. We are at the supposed place of Jesus death. 3 churches are at war over the site. Wife is Greek Orthodox and wants to light a candle. The Greek orthodox shop is closed. We go to the open Coptic church shop. The monk, when he discovers that we want to put a candle in the Greek Orthodox part refuses to sell us one.

That is a personal experience of the mildest (but most entertaining for me) form.

I could talk about the "troubles" in Northern Ireland, Henry the 8th and his FED DEI title - awarded by the then Pope for his war on the Huguenots - obviously before he declared himself the head of the English, Protestant Church.

The council of worms. The schism between the Greek Orthodox Church and the Church of Rome. Endless wars and battles for supremacy between different sects.

Where two or more Christian denominations differ in their truth claims to the point that the claims are contradictory, it is evident that they cannot all be true. There is no debating this.

However to take this and then say that this necessarily means that God has messed up in communicating His will to His people is simply fallacious. The conclusion does not follow from the presmises and therefore is a logical fallacy of the non-sequitur type.

I do sympathize with you regarding the undeniable fact that within Christianity there are divisions. Those Christians who have failed to love one another and who have been the cause of division within the church due to selfish and self centered motives will be judged by Christ for not doing what they know is right.

It does not follow from this that God is to blame. Blame the men and women who desire to be called Christians but do not obey Christ's teachings.