Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
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| that God exists empirically | 4 | 21.05% | |
| that I believe in God | 4 | 21.05% | |
| none of the above | 11 | 57.89% | |
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Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 23, 2014 at 8:12 pm
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2014 at 8:13 pm by fr0d0.)
Given God, yes. Not to the exclusion of any other preposition, as seems to be the case complainants are making.  RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 23, 2014 at 8:15 pm
In other words, "IF god was a given..." I'm picking up what you're putting down.
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 23, 2014 at 8:18 pm
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2014 at 8:18 pm by fr0d0.)
lol  Yes, if you like.   RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 23, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 23, 2014 at 8:52 pm
The global flood. It contradicts the earth. Thanks for playing.
 RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 23, 2014 at 10:51 pm
Oh BW really.....that was my line.
Oh - I'd go for for the destruction of Tyre I suppose, if the flood is already taken. OR the story of Adam and Eve. Or the story of the creation. Hundreds more I am sure...
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RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 23, 2014 at 10:53 pm
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2014 at 10:53 pm by Bad Writer.)
I saw this post while I was out shopping with my wife. We spent the rest of the time there going over what else in the Bible contradicts reality. The list got a bit extensive. Talking donkeys and snakes was up there on our list of laughs. The flood comment is the one I ended up posting.
 RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 23, 2014 at 10:55 pm
Still waiting on disciplus' followup to his question "are you human." That went nowhere fast.
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February 23, 2014 at 10:59 pm
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2014 at 11:04 pm by Ryantology.)
Quote:That will not be hard. That's actually a good answer, or would be if you didn't make a special exception that you apparently refuse to justify, and it's why we don't believe in yours. There are no good reasons to do so. That said, what reason do you have for believing in your god that couldn't apply to any other god?  Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he ...
February 23, 2014 at 11:10 pm
(This post was last modified: February 24, 2014 at 12:44 am by Rampant.A.I..)
(February 23, 2014 at 7:24 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(February 23, 2014 at 1:41 pm)rasetsu Wrote: We've been down this road many times. So far no theist has made a convincing demonstration that the mere existence of the universe is evidence for anything but its mere existence. The "givens" you're asking for here: <The universe was created by a conscious entity> <That entity is my Religion's God> <God exists> <That God is my Religion's God> <The universe is intelligently designed> <God created the universe> <God created everything in the universe> (February 23, 2014 at 7:24 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Further proof of anything about anything is redundant conjecture. It would be, if you were speaking to contemporaries who assumed all of the conclusions listed above were "given", for the sake of argument building on those conclusions as premises. However, you've been asked to provide arguments to support the above conclusions before you can introduce them as premises and show the conclusion <My God is the creator> you introduced as self-supporting. That conclusion is only self-evident to people who believe it to be: And belief is not logical support. |
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