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RE: Is there any core feature of christianity not found in other religions
February 22, 2014 at 9:39 pm
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(February 22, 2014 at 8:29 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (February 22, 2014 at 8:16 pm)discipulus Wrote: Jesus Christ, The Son of God.
Not true at all, many religions claim that they had sons of deities that were messiahs. A good example is krishna, he is also the son of a god and has better miracles around him then jesus ever did.
Even the early xtian writer, Justin, admitted as such.
Quote:And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter. For you know how many sons your esteemed writers ascribed to Jupiter: Mercury, the interpreting word and teacher of all; Æsculapius, who, though he was a great physician, was struck by a thunderbolt, and so ascended to heaven; and Bacchus too, after he had been torn limb from limb; and Hercules, when he had committed himself to the flames to escape his toils; and the sons of Leda, and Dioscuri; and Perseus, son of Danae; and Bellerophon, who, though sprung from mortals, rose to heaven on the horse Pegasus.
Justin Martyr, Ch. 21 - The First Apologia, c 160 AD
Same shit - different god according to old Justin!
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0126.htm
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RE: Is there any core feature of christianity not found in other religions
February 22, 2014 at 9:45 pm
(February 22, 2014 at 8:41 pm)discipulus Wrote: (February 22, 2014 at 8:29 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Not true at all, many religions claim that they had sons of deities that were messiahs. A good example is krishna, he is also the son of a god and has better miracles around him then jesus ever did.
I know plenty of them. Dionysus is another close one
Christianity is the only religion that has Jesus of Nazareth, The Christ as its founder.
I think this is pretty self evident.
Ok. What's your point? You really this this guy who was born of a virgin, became a teacher in his thirties, and rose from the dead three days after being killed is more authentic than the other ones?
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RE: Is there any core feature of christianity not found in other religions
February 22, 2014 at 9:46 pm
I think allowing slavery is the one that haven't seen yet in any other religion .
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RE: Is there any core feature of christianity not found in other religions
February 22, 2014 at 9:52 pm
The idea of purification through blood sacrifice is hardly new with Jesus, and the Jews had a long history of a tradition of scapegoating: that's where we get the term itself, from Jewish tradition.
Wikipedia Wrote:In the Bible, the goat for Azazel was a goat that was designated ... to be outcast in the desert as part of the ceremonies of the Day of Atonement, that began during the Exodus with the original Tabernacle and continued through the times of the temples in Jerusalem.
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RE: Is there any core feature of christianity not found in other religions
February 22, 2014 at 11:37 pm
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I thought I would come back to post a view on this topic (since I do read quite a bit here anyway).
All of the religions of the world that I am aware of have a common element.
That we are accepted by our performance.
True Christianity professes we cannot pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, (all our works are as filthy rags - used kotexes in our day) , that we need an actual redemption which we cannot pay for.
The only one who can pay our debt of wrong is one who is perfect.
God, who is perfect cannot allow imperfection into His dwelling or justice would be violated.
Only by a pardon given and received could this justice be satisfied.
God Himself is the only one who could pay the redemption price, therefore, that is exactly what He did.
The pagan religions sacrificed their children, and Satan (the god of this world) demands his followers to spill blood for him. Suicide murderers come to mind also (same principle).
Yes, the distance between true Christianity (not certain so called Christian 'isims) and these others is as vast as the distance to the heavens from earth.
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RE: Is there any core feature of christianity not found in other religions
February 22, 2014 at 11:49 pm
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Yahweh's "perfectness" is as debatable as his existence. The idea that he cursed us and told us we can't do anything without him actually paints him as a worse figure than the idea that we could do good enough to be good in his eyes. Not that I care to be good in the eyes of the deity portrayed in the bible. Trust me. There was a lot of Yahweh demanding blood be spilled for him, including children, in the old testament.
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RE: Is there any core feature of christianity not found in other religions
February 23, 2014 at 12:04 am
Chad, the actual narrative was that Adam's action brought the curse, in other words, God did not actively curse the ground- Adam did.
As for not being able to do anything without Him, I don't see that at all, in fact, at the Tower of Babel, He said, nothing they can imagine will be impossible to them.
The world has gone a long ways without God. Haven't you noticed?
The blood He demanded was not for himself.
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RE: Is there any core feature of christianity not found in other religions
February 23, 2014 at 12:21 am
So god set the trap and "adam" fell into it so that is adam's fault, huh?
Sorry, pal. Not buying it.
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RE: Is there any core feature of christianity not found in other religions
February 23, 2014 at 1:25 am
(February 22, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: I think allowing slavery is the one that haven't seen yet in any other religion .
Islam and judaism
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Is there any core feature of christianity not found in other religions
February 23, 2014 at 1:33 am
(February 22, 2014 at 8:09 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I was sitting here tonight trying to think up core feature of christianity (one accapted by all denominations, except maybe mormons) that are unique. Funny thing is there really aren't any except maybe the scape goating aspect. Does anyone know any more?
Freedom from any law or list of rules as a means to righteousness.
Personal relationship with God for every member
To be welcomed as apart of the Father's house hold one day.
I would say those where the big three. I know may of you believe many if not all other religions share these qualities, but if you were to honestly look you would note they don't.
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