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RE: Bad news for Rick Santorum: Homophobia shortens lifespan.
February 24, 2014 at 10:34 am
Ok, that's true, it's not exactly a causal relationship going on, but there does seem to be a correlation. Which is a subtle difference, but it's there.
Anyway, I wonder what this will do to fundamentalist religious zealots who claim GLBT people have shorter life spans (a claim I haven't seen proven in any way, shape or form) and claim that's proof that their behavior is unnatural and unhealthy?
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RE: Bad news for Rick Santorum: Homophobia shortens lifespan.
February 24, 2014 at 10:38 am
I can't wait to drop this on someone who touts the health benefits of being a believer.
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RE: Bad news for Rick Santorum: Homophobia shortens lifespan.
February 24, 2014 at 11:03 am
(February 24, 2014 at 10:34 am)TaraJo Wrote: Ok, that's true, it's not exactly a causal relationship going on, but there does seem to be a correlation. Which is a subtle difference, but it's there.
Anyway, I wonder what this will do to fundamentalist religious zealots who claim GLBT people have shorter life spans (a claim I haven't seen proven in any way, shape or form) and claim that's proof that their behavior is unnatural and unhealthy?
You think correlation and causation have only a subtle difference? The rise in AIDS deaths in the 1980's correlates with the rise in ownership of VCRs in the UK correlation yes. Causation utterly not.
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RE: Bad news for Rick Santorum: Homophobia shortens lifespan.
February 24, 2014 at 11:09 am
(February 24, 2014 at 10:34 am)TaraJo Wrote: Ok, that's true, it's not exactly a causal relationship going on, but there does seem to be a correlation. Which is a subtle difference, but it's there.
Anyway, I wonder what this will do to fundamentalist religious zealots who claim GLBT people have shorter life spans (a claim I haven't seen proven in any way, shape or form) and claim that's proof that their behavior is unnatural and unhealthy?
Do you? Really?
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RE: Bad news for Rick Santorum: Homophobia shortens lifespan.
February 24, 2014 at 11:56 am
(February 24, 2014 at 5:03 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Correlation =/= causality. One might as validly state from that data that shortened life span causes homophobia. If dying early made people anti-gay, that'd be just fine with me.
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RE: Bad news for Rick Santorum: Homophobia shortens lifespan.
February 24, 2014 at 11:58 am
(February 24, 2014 at 11:56 am)Tonus Wrote: (February 24, 2014 at 5:03 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Correlation =/= causality. One might as validly state from that data that shortened life span causes homophobia. If dying early made people anti-gay, that'd be just fine with me. Well it stops people being pro gay, that count?
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RE: Bad news for Rick Santorum: Homophobia shortens lifespan.
February 24, 2014 at 12:37 pm
Perhaps sweater vests cause early death?
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Or stupidity?
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RE: Bad news for Rick Santorum: Homophobia shortens lifespan.
February 24, 2014 at 1:57 pm
(February 24, 2014 at 12:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Perhaps sweater vests cause early death?
Or stupidity?
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RE: Bad news for Rick Santorum: Homophobia shortens lifespan.
February 24, 2014 at 2:31 pm
I figured you for a Santorum fan. You seem dumb enough.
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RE: Bad news for Rick Santorum: Homophobia shortens lifespan.
February 24, 2014 at 2:33 pm
That really is a hideous sweater-vest, though.
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