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One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
Simon Moon Offline
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 2:23 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 1:56 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: But you guys just think me and my family are idiots.

Remember, the majority of atheists used to be theists.

We didn't get more intelligent when we became atheists. We just got more information.

And most importantly, we corrected ourselves when we were proven wrong. We didn't hang on to our beliefs after they were proven wrong.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 2:44 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 2:20 pm)TaraJo Wrote: But don't feel bad about it. I think when I first encountered atheism it was 1999 and I was 20 years old (which really makes me feel like an old lady to say).

Well thank you very much for letting this 79er feel even older! Argue
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 2:52 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 1:22 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: My parents have told me people choose to reject God and go to hell, atheists really DO believe but are just denying it.
By the way my parents only talk about hell when I say I'm worried about it. I would NOT say they are trying to scare me.


Why would an Atheist believe in God and then deny it? What sense would that make? Come on think a little bit, will ya?

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#134
RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 3:12 pm
I bet you parents would absolutely shit a brick if they saw that post! Lol, don't get in trouble for coming here lol

I'm on a quite bit. You can PM me if you'd like.
I'm no sociologist or scientist, but I may be able to answer a question or two. Or if you just need someone to confide it.
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 3:57 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 8:42 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: I SWEAR ON MY LIFE THIS HAPPENED.

Ok, so what?

If people making an unexpected recovery from illness is proof of God, what are we to make of apparently healthy people suddenly dropping dead?

What are we to make of all the children with similarly ominous medical conditions who DIDN'T mysteriously get better, but died, to the irreparable heartbreak of their families? Did God think those children were less special?

Or is it just that we don't yet know everything about disease and that sometimes incorrect diagnoses and prognoses are given?
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 4:03 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 12:51 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Damn... this guy's family is... fucked up!!
Father is a minister...
Mother sees ghosts.
Brother gets ultra rare health problem which gets sorted without medical intervention.

I call Occam's Razor on the table and claim troll.

Damn!!! He has OCD, too?!?!
Inbreeding alert!!!!
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 4:06 pm (This post was last modified: February 28, 2014 at 4:06 pm by MitchBenn.)
Oh, and NOBODY should fear Hell. Nobody.

If you're sure enough in your faith to believe it exists, you're not going there.

If you don't believe it exists, you don't believe you're going there.

Either way there is NO reason to believe you're going there.

Nobody should fear Hell.
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 4:17 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 4:03 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(February 28, 2014 at 12:51 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Damn... this guy's family is... fucked up!!
Father is a minister...
Mother sees ghosts.
Brother gets ultra rare health problem which gets sorted without medical intervention.

I call Occam's Razor on the table and claim troll.

Damn!!! He has OCD, too?!?!
Inbreeding alert!!!!

What's funny is when you are living in that faith life, you think all of this shit is normal. lol I don't think his family is fucked up, as much as just indoctrinated. Passing down their indoctrination to their kid. Indoctrination is fucked up.
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#139
RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 4:20 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Deidre32 Wrote:
(February 28, 2014 at 4:03 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Damn!!! He has OCD, too?!?!
Inbreeding alert!!!!

What's funny is when you are living in that faith life, you think all of this shit is normal. lol I don't think his family is fucked up, as much as just indoctrinated. Passing down their indoctrination to their kid. Indoctrination is fucked up.

Fucked up is fucked up regardless of whether it is due to indoctrination.
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 4:26 pm
I disagree. I didn't consider my family "fucked up" as they raised me in the Christian faith. I don't think that we should view people who think differently as fucked up. :/

I think religion in and of itself is fucked up, but it can be taught with good intentions.

Just my pov.
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