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Fact is stranger than fiction: George Zimmerman signing autographs?
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Re: RE: Fact is stranger than fiction: George Zimmerman signing autographs?
(March 11, 2014 at 7:01 pm)Beccs Wrote: If he'd shot a white kid he'd be on death row right now.

No. You would have never heard about it. The potus wouldn't have gave a fuck and it wouldn't have even been in the paper.
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RE: Fact is stranger than fiction: George Zimmerman signing autographs?
(March 11, 2014 at 7:01 pm)Beccs Wrote: This made me sick when I read it.

If he'd shot a white kid he'd be on death row right now.
Yeah, sure. In today's world, any incidents relating to minorities are put before everything else. I'm not saying this for just america, but here in my own country aswell.
Just today, thousands of people mourned some kid who accidentally got hit in the head with a gas canister from the police and died after being in a coma, but no one talks about a girl who died from the burns caused by a molotov cocktail thrown by some anarchists on a bus, or the many soldiers we lost in battle against insurgents.
Same for America.
Why really mourn so hard for a kid whose only accomplishment was to simply die, and while assaulting some other guy?
The modern world constantly spits out false idols to present to the people as heros or victims. Regrettable as his death might have been, I don't think that Trayvon's death ever deserved so much attention.
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RE: Fact is stranger than fiction: George Zimmerman signing autographs?
(March 12, 2014 at 12:08 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(March 11, 2014 at 7:01 pm)Beccs Wrote: This made me sick when I read it.

If he'd shot a white kid he'd be on death row right now.
Yeah, sure. In today's world, any incidents relating to minorities are put before everything else. I'm not saying this for just america, but here in my own country aswell.
Just today, thousands of people mourned some kid who accidentally got hit in the head with a gas canister from the police and died after being in a coma, but no one talks about a girl who died from the burns caused by a molotov cocktail thrown by some anarchists on a bus, or the many soldiers we lost in battle against insurgents.
Same for America.
Why really mourn so hard for a kid whose only accomplishment was to simply die, and while assaulting some other guy?
The modern world constantly spits out false idols to present to the people as heros or victims. Regrettable as his death might have been, I don't think that Trayvon's death ever deserved so much attention.

Well, I think it received a lot of attention for a number of reasons, the main one being that a neighborhood watch guy took the law into his own hands. That's not his choice to do, and Trayvon wasn't bothering anyone. The events that led up to Trayvon reacting as he did to me, are vital. Who knows how you might react if you are being followed for a while through neighborhoods? Not justifying his reaction, but the outcome of that trial sent a message to other neighborhood watch people that you can take the law into your own hands. To me, that is wrong.

I agree with you though in a general sense that the media tries to force its view of who's a hero and victim onto the public.
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RE: Fact is stranger than fiction: George Zimmerman signing autographs?
(March 11, 2014 at 6:50 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: what kind of people would ask for this nut's autograph.

The same people who worship guns and fantasize about shooting an intruder.
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RE: Fact is stranger than fiction: George Zimmerman signing autographs?
The only indication that Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman is George Zimmerman's testimony. Forgive me if the testimony of an obviously unhinged nutcase doesn't carry weight with me.
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RE: Fact is stranger than fiction: George Zimmerman signing autographs?
(March 12, 2014 at 6:18 am)Tonus Wrote: Ehh, I don't think it's shocking that people are asking for his autograph. You are aware that many serial killers (Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez being just two examples) had dozens of female fans who fawned over them at the trials where their gruesome rape/torture/murders were being explained in detail?

I'm more surprised that a gun show thought that it was worth the bad publicity (and potential for incidents... at a GUN SHOW) to have him as a featured guest.

^This right here.

It's like Timothy McVeigh signing autographs at an agricultural convention.
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RE: Fact is stranger than fiction: George Zimmerman signing autographs?
Quote:Well, I think it received a lot of attention for a number of reasons, the main one being that a neighborhood watch guy took the law into his own hands.
Well, he might have. Though he didn't break the law himself while doing it. I.e. making a citizen's arrest.
Else, the guy might have been still alive.

Quote: That's not his choice to do, and Trayvon wasn't bothering anyone.
In fact, it was his choice whether to follow him or not. He still didn't break the law while doing it.
Quote:The events that led up to Trayvon reacting as he did to me, are vital.
So are the events that led up to Zimmerman reacting as he did, to the court.
And the court acquitted him because of it.
Quote: Who knows how you might react if you are being followed for a while through neighborhoods?
I certainly would not jump the guy, as I know better than to attack an unknown assailant, who knows, he might carry a weapon. I guess he thought he could take the guy.
Quote: Not justifying his reaction, but the outcome of that trial sent a message to other neighborhood watch people that you can take the law into your own hands.
Does this automatically mean that he should be convicted just to make an example out of him?
Quote:I agree with you though in a general sense that the media tries to force its view of who's a hero and victim onto the public.
Well, in my opinion, neither one is a hero.
Disregarding what we spoke of the trial, what I mean is that some deaths are more publicized than others, for a reason I don't understand.
For example, how many of you know the name of an Iraq veterean who might have gotten killed while actually performing real deeds of heroism in the name of his country?
Though everyone knows this kid who got killed in a fight. I think it is an insult to people whose deaths should not be forgotten.
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RE: Fact is stranger than fiction: George Zimmerman signing autographs?
The media and a good portion of gun advocates molded Zimmerman into the a pro-gun figure. Zimmerman is a lunatic, his track record speaks for its self. I can live with him being found not guilty with the crappy laws set in place in Florida, but what I find ridiculous is the notion that he is a good guy. The way this thing played out politically was an embarrassment as well, Zimmerman isn't a hero, he's just the sad POS that the right clinged to so they could go against the left.
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RE: Fact is stranger than fiction: George Zimmerman signing autographs?
(March 12, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Asimm Wrote: The media and a good portion of gun advocates molded Zimmerman into the a pro-gun figure. Zimmerman is a lunatic, his track record speaks for its self. I can live with him being found not guilty with the crappy laws set in place in Florida, but what I find ridiculous is the notion that he is a good guy. The way this thing played out politically was an embarrassment as well, Zimmerman isn't a hero, he's just the sad POS that the right clinged to so they could make go aganist the left.

Well, in a fight, there is no good guy. There is a winner, and there is a loser. Here, Trayvon lost and paid with his life.
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