Where do they come from? Who is to blame?
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Evil and suffering.
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Evil comes from evil people.. blame people. . Suffering comes from evil people being evil but not from suffering. .
This world was not designed for us to live in it, let alone happily. This is all you need to know. Concerning evil done by humans, that's just the way we evolved. Look at our next of kin, chimps and bonobos, to see different aspects of our nature expressed. We're unfortunately somewhat on the chimpy side of things...
RE: Evil and suffering.
March 13, 2014 at 7:27 am
(This post was last modified: March 13, 2014 at 7:30 am by Mudhammam.)
To add to what Alex said, evil (at least as I define it) is merely one of two other categories all intentions and actions of self-aware beings necessarily fall into; the other two are good and neutral. Actions that lead to greater flourishing and progeny of our species, which also includes bettering all of our actual and potential psychological and physiological states, are described by most thinking beings as "good." Rudimentary examples of how this came to be, in the early development of life, might be the simple mechanistic reactions embodied in the Four Fs that virtually all organisms adhere to--flight, fight, feed, or mate. As animals gradually evolved under the environmental pressures that besieged them, their brains developed the ability to communicate thoughts and in turn, contracts between rivaling tribes became necessary for maximizing their quality of life and most importantly, their offspring. At some point we developed empathy for strangers because we gained the ability to reflect on what it's like to actually be them. Morality is ultimately a product of biology, as Alex said, but it's also a product of the evolution of consciousness and culture.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
(March 13, 2014 at 6:38 am)tor Wrote: Where do they come from? Who is to blame? Evil and suffering... Suffering comes from the nerves of each individual. Blame it on the machinery we have to perceive the world around us, which also enables us to perceive when we have some damage in our bodies. Evil comes from people who wish to cause suffering upon others. Those people who create that evil are to blame for it. There, hope I responded clearly. /thread!
"Evil" is what the other guy does.
(March 13, 2014 at 8:44 am)bennyboy Wrote:(March 13, 2014 at 7:27 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: To add to what Alex said, evil (at least as I define it) is merely one of two other categories all intentions and actions of self-aware beings necessarily fall into; the other two are good and neutral.You forgot chaotic and lawful. True but broadly speaking I'd say those fall under either "good," "evil," (more correctly, "bad" or "harmful") or "neutral."
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
Evil is a concept invented by man. Suffering is an inevitable outcome of our bodily functions reacting badly to outside stimuli.
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