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Hotel bosses rant against Muslim guest.
December 9, 2009 at 11:57 am
Two hotel owners insulted a Muslim guest by branding her a terrorist and comparing the Prophet Mohammed to Hitler, a court heard yesterday.
Devout Christians Ben Vogelenzang and wife Sharon are alleged to have insulted Ericka Tazi, aged 60, when she came down to breakfast in a hijab and traditional Islamic dress.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/new...z0ZCvhGKU2
Yes I am aware it is the Sun "newspaper" but somehow I don't find it too difficult to believe this article.
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RE: Hotel bosses rant against Muslim guest.
December 9, 2009 at 12:12 pm
My favorite part of the article was this question: "Are you a terrorist or a murderer?" um, option three please? People are nuts. When will people understand that you can't judge a whole group by the actions of a few extremists?
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RE: Hotel bosses rant against Muslim guest.
December 9, 2009 at 1:02 pm
(December 9, 2009 at 11:57 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Two hotel owners insulted a Muslim guest by branding her a terrorist and comparing the Prophet Mohammed to Hitler, a court heard yesterday.
Devout Christians Ben Vogelenzang and wife Sharon are alleged to have insulted Ericka Tazi, aged 60, when she came down to breakfast in a hijab and traditional Islamic dress.
yes these 2 are very rude at the least but is insulting someone a court matter?
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RE: Hotel bosses rant against Muslim guest.
December 9, 2009 at 1:25 pm
(December 9, 2009 at 1:02 pm)HornyJesus Wrote: (December 9, 2009 at 11:57 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Two hotel owners insulted a Muslim guest by branding her a terrorist and comparing the Prophet Mohammed to Hitler, a court heard yesterday.
Devout Christians Ben Vogelenzang and wife Sharon are alleged to have insulted Ericka Tazi, aged 60, when she came down to breakfast in a hijab and traditional Islamic dress.
yes these 2 are very rude at the least but is insulting someone a court matter?
Normally I would say no, but in this matter it is different. See this woman was a guest in their hotel. She pays for them to provide a service, to have a good time away from home. Not to get flack for her beliefs.
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RE: Hotel bosses rant against Muslim guest.
December 9, 2009 at 6:22 pm
The case was dismissed because the defendants evidence was "all over the place". The Christians seemed to be bigoted idiots supported by a Christian group for the right to be a bigoted idiot. Crazy.
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RE: Hotel bosses rant against Muslim guest.
December 9, 2009 at 9:06 pm
(December 9, 2009 at 1:25 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: (December 9, 2009 at 1:02 pm)HornyJesus Wrote: (December 9, 2009 at 11:57 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Two hotel owners insulted a Muslim guest by branding her a terrorist and comparing the Prophet Mohammed to Hitler, a court heard yesterday.
Devout Christians Ben Vogelenzang and wife Sharon are alleged to have insulted Ericka Tazi, aged 60, when she came down to breakfast in a hijab and traditional Islamic dress.
yes these 2 are very rude at the least but is insulting someone a court matter?
Normally I would say no, but in this matter it is different. See this woman was a guest in their hotel. She pays for them to provide a service, to have a good time away from home. Not to get flack for her beliefs.
Those bastards (in bold). They were probably having a fun time rediculing her. Every one has the right to be treated good, in one way or another.
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RE: Hotel bosses rant against Muslim guest.
December 12, 2009 at 4:26 pm
(December 9, 2009 at 12:12 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: When will people understand that you can't judge a whole group by the actions of a few extremists?
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Is that not just what you are doing?
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RE: Hotel bosses rant against Muslim guest.
December 12, 2009 at 6:02 pm
(December 12, 2009 at 4:26 pm)Sopater48 Wrote: (December 9, 2009 at 12:12 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: When will people understand that you can't judge a whole group by the actions of a few extremists?
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Is that not just what you are doing?
That's not how I read it.-The hotelier is an ignorant bigot who happens to be a Christian.A person of that type would be an arsehole no matter what his religion.
My oft stated view is that religions allow people's character to emerge, good and bad. IE Religions are reflections of the societies which invent them and of the people who practice them. ALL believers cherry pick the emphasis their religion takes for them. EG how many Christians actually turn the other cheek,love their enemies,or give away everything they own to the poor to live the apostolate?
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RE: Hotel bosses rant against Muslim guest.
December 12, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Whilst what they said was offensive, I have to stand by their right to say it under the freedom of speech that this country barely clings onto. If they want to insult someone and ruin their business, it's their own choice and fault.
One thing I hope the Conservative Party's "British Bill of Rights" will have is a section protecting the freedom of speech. A section separating church and state would be nice too, although the day the UK accepts secularism is the day Hell freezes over (if Hell exists that is).
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RE: Hotel bosses rant against Muslim guest.
December 14, 2009 at 3:29 pm
(December 12, 2009 at 4:26 pm)Sopater48 Wrote: (December 9, 2009 at 12:12 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: When will people understand that you can't judge a whole group by the actions of a few extremists?
Rhizo
Is that not just what you are doing?
So which group was I judging? You fail to make a point.
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