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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 18, 2014 at 11:11 am
(March 18, 2014 at 11:07 am)discipulus Wrote: Claims to knowledge are just that. I hold you and everyone else here to the same standard I hold anyone to when claims of knowledge are made. If that makes your head explode then so be it.
So, how many Sye Ten Bruggencate videos you watched lately?
(And in before Disc's unerringly literal response, I am in fact speaking generally about presuppositional apologetics.)
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 18, 2014 at 11:26 am
(March 18, 2014 at 10:38 am)discipulus Wrote: Two things. The theory of evolution by natural selection is just that, a theory. It is provisional.
Oh, Discipulus, you were making so much sense up to this point. You correctly warned us agains blanket statements and proclaimed how you don't attack evolution...then you say something ignorant about evolution. In colloquial English, a theory is an educated guess, a conjecture. What in science would be a hypotheisis. In science (except for theoretical physics, which should be re-named hypothetical physics) your ideas don't rise to the level of a theory until they've proven robust enough to stand up to intense efforts to disprove it.
The theory of evolution is as provisional as the germ theory of disease. It's made of facts, explains those facts, and we can make predictions based on it and actually observe it in action.
'It's just a theory' is a phrase that can never be properly applied to an actual scientific theory.
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 18, 2014 at 11:43 am
(March 18, 2014 at 10:38 am)discipulus Wrote: (March 18, 2014 at 9:52 am)Deidre32 Wrote: Simply put, many Christians deny evolution because it is evidence that the Bible is nonsense.
Two things. The theory of evolution by natural selection is just that, a theory. It is provisional.
Second, the claim that the theory of evolution by natural selection is evidence the Bible is nonsense is a claim to knowledge. So I would be very interested in you telling me how you came to possess this knowledge.
Before I answer, are you refuting evolution?
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 18, 2014 at 11:58 am
(March 18, 2014 at 11:43 am)Deidre32 Wrote: Before I answer, are you refuting evolution?
http://atheistforums.org/thread-24716-po...#pid627248 (I'm not sure if that means he refutes it though)
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 18, 2014 at 12:04 pm
The principle reason I personally attack the evolutionary nonsense is because it is false.
The substitution of one preisthood and view of life for another.
The high preisthood of Darwin revels in social power, takes decades to admit their hoaxes - all those bent over, cave- men to men caricatures we saw all those years- were fake.
The "Lucy" scam where they substituted straight finger bones for the missing parts the monkey didn't have in their pictorial prints of the bones, while monkey hand bones are curved.
They have a huge monetary vested interest in maintaining the money flow. Who are you kidding?
These guys operate like a herd.
Nobody wants to stick their face out and admit the BS.
We are called fairyoligists while you guys, having a similar position get away with it?
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 18, 2014 at 12:06 pm
Unless you cite sources for your assertions professor, this is just your opinion.
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 18, 2014 at 12:06 pm
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(March 17, 2014 at 7:17 pm)Michael Schubert Wrote: But why exactly is it that Christians oppose evolution?
I think it basically just boils down to theists adamantly opposing anything that contradicts their faith. That is when they begin creating their silly Apologists arguments.
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Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 18, 2014 at 12:06 pm
(March 18, 2014 at 8:00 am)Esquilax Wrote: (March 18, 2014 at 7:55 am)professor Wrote: Are...You...Serious????
You know why Christians attack your fairy tale.
Your wiley, deceptive mentors took real science (the stuff we do every day: We did THIS and we got THAT.)
Put the cloak (name) of real science on their theory, put a bra with some padding in it, gave it lipstick, more padding, stood it up and called it "Science".
Carl Sagan did the same thing- puts on a long white shop coat, instead of the black ones the other priests wear- and Wha- Laa he gets instant believableness.
David Berlinksi (pretty high level phd type) last I saw, is not a Christian.
An interview with him on youtube is delightful.
He wrote some books spoofing and exposing the the nonsense of the great and mighty Dawkins.
Of course, David doesn't get free publicity like the religionists pushing your stuff get, but guys like him are out there.
Isn't it interesting that all you can do is insult the theory, but you can do nothing to rebut it?
Could it be that you can't, because evolution is a confirmed scientific fact that I could literally show you pictures of right now, and you are talking out of your ass? :thinking:
He clearly doesn't understand the basic premises of the theory and attacks the strawman he learned about in church, but has no interest in learning what the theory actually states.
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 18, 2014 at 12:08 pm
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(March 18, 2014 at 12:04 pm)professor Wrote: The principle reason I personally attack the evolutionary nonsense is because it is false.
The substitution of one preisthood and view of life for another.
The high preisthood of Darwin revels in social power, takes decades to admit their hoaxes - all those bent over, cave- men to men caricatures we saw all those years- were fake.
The "Lucy" scam where they substituted straight finger bones for the missing parts the monkey didn't have in their pictorial prints of the bones, while monkey hand bones are curved.
They have a huge monetary vested interest in maintaining the money flow. Who are you kidding?
These guys operate like a herd.
Nobody wants to stick their face out and admit the BS.
We are called fairyoligists while you guys, having a similar position get away with it?
Well, there is a hell of a lot of evidence for evolution, as opposed to nothing beyond Occam's razor for creation.
Also, a lot of science is based on the observable reality of evolution. Bacteria evolve all the time, as evident in anti-biotic resistance gram negative strains of bacteria which are beginning to kill increasing numbers of people where antibiotics are abused.
But you're right, in one sense, when you think that you've never seen a giraffe turn into into a giant turd before.
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RE: Why Christians Attack Evolution
March 18, 2014 at 12:10 pm
(March 18, 2014 at 12:04 pm)professor Wrote: The principle reason I personally attack the evolutionary nonsense is because it is false.
The substitution of one preisthood and view of life for another.
The high preisthood of Darwin revels in social power, takes decades to admit their hoaxes - all those bent over, cave- men to men caricatures we saw all those years- were fake.
The "Lucy" scam where they substituted straight finger bones for the missing parts the monkey didn't have in their pictorial prints of the bones, while monkey hand bones are curved.
They have a huge monetary vested interest in maintaining the money flow. Who are you kidding?
These guys operate like a herd.
Nobody wants to stick their face out and admit the BS.
We are called fairyoligists while you guys, having a similar position get away with it? I suppose that it is to be expected that people who make up their gods must also fashion suitable villains out of thin air.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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