Dear Christians

[Phatt Matt s]

Frame of reference, a metric fuckton is more than a metric shit-ton, but less than a metric fuckload.

Brilliant!

[Aractus]

I see this thread is a dud so far
Doesnt attract catholics or protestants

Well you start way too many threads, and we're still waiting to find out your exact perspective so what do you expect?

[Phatt Matt s]

I see this thread is a dud so far
Doesnt attract catholics or protestants

Well you start way too many threads, and we're still waiting to find out your exact perspective so what do you expect?

Start asking me questions about my perspective.

[Drich]

I got a question for Protestants and Catholics.

Now I'm a believer, because I can't adequately take care of myself, and know that all things, including beautiful women, fall apart and die. We are never promised tomorrow.

I believe that Jesus was the slaughter lamb that shed His blood for iniquitous slime like me. I believe that Jesus murders a kitten every time I masturbate, along with the other Doctrines that must be embraced, so that I don't spend eternity with a hot poker up my ass.

If we speak where the bible speaks and remain silent where the bible is silent then we would understand materbation is not a sin. The sin Can be found lusting after the one your masterbating to.

I believe in Him but still think He's full of shit, and have a lot of animosity + doubt.

He said, "Ask anything of the Father in my name and He will give it to you".

To ask something in someone's name is to ask for something HE would ask for.. Not say in jesus name i ask for a winning lottery ticket.

Do you believe He wants what's best for everyone?

No, God is not interested in what we think is 'best' Or what we think we deserve.

So if a homosexual, pedophile, or serial killer prays to God that they would no longer have such desires, and have a healthy mind, emotions, sexuality ( or what have you), and God could give the grace without costing him a single dingle-berry, why wouldn't he Do it?

Because 'we/they' Do not belong to God. We all sin. We are slaves to sin. We will all die sinners no matter what we say do or want.

That is why in biblical Christianity it is not commanded of us to live sinless lives. Our responsiablity begins and ends with turn our heart from sin, and to do everything we can to avoid it. I would say that if a Homosexual man avoided the temptation of his sin the best that he could, and his heart was far from the desires of his body, then he like anyone else would find forgiveness. However if he sourrounds himself with the sin his heart wants and blames God for his situation and does nothing to avoid his weaknesses then he will not be forgiven.

Why? Be again the sin is not the issue it is the desire to sin or the desire to be free of it that God asks of us.

Does he want what's best for ALL people? Well then, He must want them to be homosexual, tempted to molest children, or tempted to murder. Otherwise, that would mean he chooses to not do what is best for the person, and therefore, doesn't want what's best for them.

ah, no. God wants them to make an effort.

It is scandalous that we have obesity in this country while God walks past the starving and infirm, in the third world; God is Rich as fuck but doesn't feed them. It is an outrage that God is a Father, a strong mighty Father, that watches his children get trafficked, fucked, and murdered. He see's these cold blooded monsters laying waste to the innocent and could easily come to the rescue, yet chooses not to.

God provided the resources that would make it possiable to feed everyone. Meaning there is technically enough food on the planet and the means to move and distribute it to feed everyone.

What is scandalous is the fact that the top 10% of the population of the planet retain this food reserve and will not share it. That is like a Father leaving his 18 yearold son incharge of his young brothers and sisters, and gives the oldest son enough money to cover all house hold expenses while he is gone.. But, the son in charge takes that money and buys himself food and leaves his sibblings to fend for themselves, and what's more has the gall to say if 'father' wanted you to eat he would have given you a surplus as he has given me.

What do you think the Father will do when He returns to the unfaithful son?

What do you think of such a Father?

What do you think of such a wicked son as to blam his father for depending on the son/servant?

Do I believe in God? Yes. Does He piss me off. Immeasurably!!!

.. and of the plank in your own eye?

Catholics and Protestants piss me off! You guys are commanded not to judge lest you be judged.

Nupe..
We are not to judge UNLESS We are able to have that same measure used against us. The command is not to forbid judgement, but to forbid hyprocrisy.

"Do not look at a woman with lust or you have committed adultery with her in your heart. Forgive others or you will not be forgiven. Do unto others as you would have them do to you. love one another as I have loved you" etc. etc. etc....

For the sake of not being a hypocrit, I piss me off, cuz I don't follow those rules.

Those rules are what it is all about. God's forgiveness is as deep as your ablity to forgive. Here is a parable that explains this in greater detail. (start at verse 21) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=NIV

But I prayed to God for the graces to be obedient. He chose not to give them.

Because obedience for the sake of being an obedient rule follower is not the objective here.

Funny, I wanted to do his will but He leaves me in the darkness so I can't. How many other sorry son's of Bitches like me are in the same boat? Thanks Jesus!

Again you don't seem to understand the basics of Christianity. It's not about living a perfect life, it is simply wanting to and going to Christ to cover the sins you can't help doing. Read romans 7.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=NIV

It's no wonder the world is going to hell in a handbag!

[KUSA]

Look T Cunt, get this god bullshit out of your head. That is what's making you crazy. Become an Atheist and subscribe to reason and logic and you will be able to throw your meds away.

[Phatt Matt s]

Look T Cunt, get this god bullshit out of your head. That is what's making you crazy. Become an Atheist and subscribe to reason and logic and you will be able to throw your meds away.

I was ten times more of a wicked, selfish, perverted, swine and psychopath before I began prayer, meditation, and spiritual reading.

[KUSA]

It's all in your head. You found a way albeit a flawed one to visualize a way to control it.

If you pursued a path of reason and logic you could go much further.

You basically are replacing one crazy notion with another by turning to religion.

[Phatt Matt s]

It's all in your head. You found a way albeit a flawed one to visualize a way to control it.

If you pursued a path of reason and logic you could go much further.

You basically are replacing one crazy notion with another by turning to religion.

I'm always looking for better ways. However, if I decide there isn't a God, my knowledge of who I am leads me to conclude, that I'll be dishonest and steal, and God knows what else, be totally indifferent to integrity, and manipulate people for my own benefit, as often as possible.

[KUSA]

It's all in your head. You found a way albeit a flawed one to visualize a way to control it.

If you pursued a path of reason and logic you could go much further.

You basically are replacing one crazy notion with another by turning to religion.

I'm always looking for better ways. However, if I decide there isn't a God, my knowledge of who I am leads me to conclude, that I'll be dishonest and steal, and God knows what else, be totally indifferent to integrity, and manipulate people for my own benefit, as often as possible.

So you have to turn to ancient goat herders for your morality? I know what's right and what's wrong and don't need a bible to tell me.

Why the fuck do you want to hurt others? Is that how you want to be treated?

[Phatt Matt s]

So you have to turn to ancient goat herders for your morality? I know what's right and what's wrong and don't need a bible to tell me.

Why the fuck do you want to hurt others? Is that how you want to be treated?

Of course not. But I'm naturally selfish. I've developed a big heart in the last few years, so maybe I wouldn't hurt people much, but would be lying whenever it would make me happy, or get me something, and shoplift cuz I'm an expert at it.