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Question for the theist
#51
RE: Question for the theist
alpha male rejecting science does not make you a brutal male primate you wish to be.
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#52
RE: Question for the theist
(March 31, 2014 at 5:12 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 4:39 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: then how do you explain the alignment of genetic tree, how do you account for us and apes being closely alike?
Things that are designed and have similar appearance and functions will have similar blueprints.

ETA: BTW, why the switch from the fossil record to genetics? Not finding fossils all that compelling?

they are all very compelling! but what doesnt let you accept it is some 2k year old book! fossils and genetics all lead to the same thing, its there, the evidence is there but why do you deny it? it seems like you believe in "intelligent design", how do you know that it was designed? what does a universe that has no design look like?
xR34P3Rx
it isn't in our nature to think of a God, it is in our nature to seek answers and the concept of God is most influenced in this world.
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#53
RE: Question for the theist
(March 31, 2014 at 5:18 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: fossils and genetics all lead to the same thing, its there, the evidence is there but why do you deny it?
Can you support that fossils and genetics always lead to the same trees?
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#54
RE: Question for the theist
(March 31, 2014 at 5:35 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 5:18 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: fossils and genetics all lead to the same thing, its there, the evidence is there but why do you deny it?
Can you support that fossils and genetics always lead to the same trees?

Here you got TONS of evidence for it.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/librar...cat02.html
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#55
RE: Question for the theist
(March 31, 2014 at 5:40 pm)tor Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 5:35 pm)alpha male Wrote: Can you support that fossils and genetics always lead to the same trees?

Here you got TONS of evidence for it.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/librar...cat02.html
Which part of that says that fossils and genetics always lead to the same trees? And pbs isn't a scientific organization to my knowledge.
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#56
RE: Question for the theist
(March 31, 2014 at 5:47 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 5:40 pm)tor Wrote: Here you got TONS of evidence for it.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/librar...cat02.html
Which part of that says that fossils and genetics always lead to the same trees? And pbs isn't a scientific organization to my knowledge.

Show me a scientific organization then.
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#57
RE: Question for the theist
(March 31, 2014 at 5:35 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 5:18 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: fossils and genetics all lead to the same thing, its there, the evidence is there but why do you deny it?
Can you support that fossils and genetics always lead to the same trees?

the fossils lead more towards living organisms, or all animals where as genetics leads to plants and animals. Take a look at this, you can really see the connection Smile

[Image: Charles_Darwin_tree_of_life_poster.jpg]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hum...on_fossils

if you want to look at the fossil record for the animals as in going to human down to like elephants, you would have to do that yourself by seeing each set of fossils and compare them to see the similarity.

[Image: Evolution%20concept%20map--big.cmap?rid=...e=htmljpeg]

do some of your own research, theres tons of things you can learn and its a lot to take in!
xR34P3Rx
it isn't in our nature to think of a God, it is in our nature to seek answers and the concept of God is most influenced in this world.
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#58
Question for the theist
(March 31, 2014 at 5:12 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 4:39 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: then how do you explain the alignment of genetic tree, how do you account for us and apes being closely alike?
Things that are designed and have similar appearance and functions will have similar blueprints.

ETA: BTW, why the switch from the fossil record to genetics? Not finding fossils all that compelling?

Gee, it's almost as if you don't have any evidence at all to present, given that you've fallen back on a completely unsubstantiated argument from design.

Switch? You mean additional sources of compelling empirical evidence?

What empirical evidence for God's existence and intelligent design did you present again?

Your failure to understand science does not indicate scientific consensus is faulty. It indicates you don't understand the evidence, and yet fancy yourself an expert at interpreting it.

There's a term for that.

Quote:The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.[1] Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
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#59
RE: Question for the theist
(March 31, 2014 at 5:35 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(March 31, 2014 at 5:18 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: fossils and genetics all lead to the same thing, its there, the evidence is there but why do you deny it?
Can you support that fossils and genetics always lead to the same trees?

oh and thank you for dodging my other questions about "intelligent design". i await an answer
xR34P3Rx
it isn't in our nature to think of a God, it is in our nature to seek answers and the concept of God is most influenced in this world.
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#60
RE: Question for the theist
(March 31, 2014 at 5:48 pm)tor Wrote: Show me a scientific organization then.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
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