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Jesus should be put back in the government!
#31
RE: Jesus should be put back in the government!
(December 20, 2009 at 10:15 pm)Joe Bloe Wrote: That sounds like you are saying that humans are basically immoral and Christianity is required to overcome the problem. I disagree.
It's called original sin. We are rotten to the bone because the first human attempt according to biblical account to doubt his authorithy (our first attempt at science really) with our god-given free will ended in a huge payback for all humanity still not completed. Luckily he sent his son, who basically is just himself, to save us from his own payback, meanwhile acting dumb about that salvation being something out of our own pocket.
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#32
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Yes stupid people read it literally :S
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#33
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You mean stupid people literally sit down to read it? As opposed to not actually reading and literally throwing it out the window? lol

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#34
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Both would have the same effect no doubt Smile
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#35
RE: Jesus should be put back in the government!
(December 21, 2009 at 8:39 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: You mean stupid people literally sit down to read it?

You'd better sit down, if you read it standing up you will be exhausted by the time you finished all the begats.

(December 21, 2009 at 8:39 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: As opposed to not actually reading and literally throwing it out the window? lol

Why would you? A bible is always handy if you have a wobbly table or have that empty space in the bookcase.
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#36
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(December 21, 2009 at 5:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(December 20, 2009 at 10:15 pm)Joe Bloe Wrote: That sounds like you are saying that humans are basically immoral and Christianity is required to overcome the problem. I disagree.

Yep that's right. The Adam and Eve story was basically establishing that fact. It's the basis of Christianity, and most religions.

Now I don't think animals are bad, but what humans do it curb our animal instincts. We don't rape, steal, kill, when we feel like it, for example. It's not just a religious stance.
(December 20, 2009 at 10:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:and Christianity is required to overcome the problem.

Then it has been an abject failure in any case.

Yeah. It's an aim.



After 1,500 years I'd say its time to try something else!
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#37
RE: Jesus should be put back in the government!
(December 21, 2009 at 8:37 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Yes stupid people read it literally :S
I must have missed that worldwide clerical campaign (maybe name it Inquisition 2.0) to eridicate literal interpretation of biblical account and to fake your own personal delusion from it. It seems I am not alone, the vast majority of christians worldwide to some extent adheres to the literal interpretation.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
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#38
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(December 21, 2009 at 5:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Now I don't think animals are bad, but what humans do it curb our animal instincts. We don't rape, steal, kill, when we feel like it, for example. It's not just a religious stance.

Not a religious stance? "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." Numbers 31:16-18

In modern day, http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm should speak for itself. The religious criminals rape, steal, and kill.
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#39
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(December 21, 2009 at 3:11 pm)Zhalentine Wrote:
(December 21, 2009 at 5:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Now I don't think animals are bad, but what humans do it curb our animal instincts. We don't rape, steal, kill, when we feel like it, for example. It's not just a religious stance.

Not a religious stance? "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." Numbers 31:16-18

In modern day, http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm should speak for itself. The religious criminals rape, steal, and kill.
You forgot about the Fr0d0 Disclaimer in the manual of the bible: nothing what the bible says can be interpreted by others than believers. It's a perfect cop out.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
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#40
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Yeah, after 1,500.. I haven't seen or heard of anything like the events that happened in the bible... all mystical and such.... why is that?


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