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Literal belief in the flood story
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RE: Literal belief in the flood story
April 5, 2014 at 1:30 am
Here's your explanation: God fixed it by magic. Duh.

Next!
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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Re: RE: Literal belief in the flood story
April 5, 2014 at 1:35 am
(April 5, 2014 at 12:30 am)AT7iLA Wrote: As far as the children go... I think 150 years is enough time to warn your kids about a judgement.

Infants, toddlers, and other young children too? They wouldn't understand and if they did what the fuck are they gonna do build their own ark?
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RE: Literal belief in the flood story
April 5, 2014 at 2:41 am
(April 5, 2014 at 12:32 am)Chas Wrote:
(April 5, 2014 at 12:30 am)AT7iLA Wrote: You list these things as if the God that was powerful enough to flood the earth isn't powerful enough to bring plants back to life... The way that I see it is God didn't kill people, He warned them about a coming judgement. He didn't force people to get in the ark, it was their choice... Free will.

Now we have a judicial system, correct? If the law says that murderers will be punished by death sentence and the government didn't deliver the decree if they had caught a murderer then people would most likely revolt due to injustice.

God warned about a judgement. In fact they had 150 years to decide whether to get on the boat or not. Now if God would have never delivered that decree the wicked would probably become even more wicked and Noah and his family would also turn from God.

As far as the children go... I think 150 years is enough time to warn your kids about a judgement.

Where do you 150 years from? Thinking

His arse, which is where most apologetics comes from.
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RE: Literal belief in the flood story
April 5, 2014 at 3:27 am
Sad little people. Angel Cloud
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RE: Literal belief in the flood story
April 5, 2014 at 3:32 am
(April 5, 2014 at 3:27 am)DarkHorse Wrote: Sad little people. Angel Cloud

Indeed, most people give up fairytales before adulthood because they can see the flaws.

But these people will perform the most incredible mental gymnastics possible in order to cling on to their security blankets.
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RE: Literal belief in the flood story
April 5, 2014 at 7:50 am
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RE: Literal belief in the flood story
April 5, 2014 at 10:48 am
Awesome. I never thought of it that way. Like in any badly-written work of fiction, how something happened can often be easily explained away by fanon. The tough part part is explaining the characters' motivations and the lack of internal consistency.
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RE: Literal belief in the flood story
April 5, 2014 at 11:59 am (This post was last modified: April 5, 2014 at 12:04 pm by LostLocke.)
(April 5, 2014 at 12:30 am)AT7iLA Wrote: The way that I see it is God didn't kill people, He warned them about a coming judgement. He didn't force people to get in the ark, it was their choice... Free will.
FYI...
Warning people about a coming catastrophe is not the same thing as causing the catastrophe.

If a dam breaks and I tell the people in the town to leave, I warned them.
If I break the dam, whether I warn them or not, I am completely responsible for what happens to them.
If I tell the people in town to do what I want or I'll break the dam, then I'm just a two bit malicious thug.
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RE: Literal belief in the flood story
April 5, 2014 at 12:25 pm
Why would they believe a flood happened when there's no proof that it happened? Well seeing as how I was one of them the answer is: ignorance.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

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RE: Literal belief in the flood story
April 5, 2014 at 3:07 pm (This post was last modified: April 5, 2014 at 3:08 pm by DarkHorse.)
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