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Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 5, 2014 at 7:48 pm
So, according to the Bible, YHWH is the source of all of our morality. He tells us not to kill, steal, rape lie, or covet, yet, he frequently breaks his own rules. He's on record for murdering the crap out of lots of people. Even children! So, you ask an apologist "what the shit?" and they'll say something to the effect of "God has no moral imperative not to kill us" or "those rules are for us, not God" or "who are you to question the Almighty!?"
Fair enough, I suppose (not really), but how do you know God isn't lying at any given time? He has no moral imperative to tell the truth, the rules about lying don't apply to him, and hey, who are we to question him? The apologetics are pretty clear on this.
So, how does a Christian trust any single word written in the Bible or allegedly said by God? Any traits they give him (like holding to his covenants) are all told to us... by God. How do we know he holds his covenants?
So, Christians: how can you trust God?
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Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 5, 2014 at 7:59 pm
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Well it's God, and since all morality comes from God, God doesn't have to behave morally and is still moral!
See? Christian circular logic solves everything! Just add -because God and anything you like becomes true!
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 5, 2014 at 8:04 pm
Either they grew up on the happier parts, and ignored the horrible parts, or they just think there's nothing they can do about it, so they might as well go along with it. You don't want to be tortured in hell for eternity, do you?
Sometimes I wonder why christians even stay in the religion at all, and I realize that some really don't. They leave, and never look back. Some do because it's easier. They don't want to be ostracized, or risk being wrong.
Stockholm syndrome at its finest.
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 5, 2014 at 8:21 pm
Good question, Chad. I wonder how many really believe the bullshit they've been fed?
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 5, 2014 at 8:35 pm
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Yeah, we is all brainwashed dumb folk.
Cain't help ourselves.
When someone said we Christians are all brainwashed, Barry McGuire (eve of destruction song) replied, -
the difference is we have CHOSEN Who we want to wash our brains........
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Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 5, 2014 at 8:36 pm
(April 5, 2014 at 8:35 pm)professor Wrote: Yeah, we is all brainwashed dumb folk.
Cain't help ourselves.
When someone said we Christians are all brainwashed, Barry McGuire (eve of destruction song) replied, - the difference is we have CHOSEN Who we want to wash our brains........
Couldn't sed it bettar misefl
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 5, 2014 at 8:39 pm
(April 5, 2014 at 8:35 pm)professor Wrote: Yeah, we is all brainwashed dumb folk.
Cain't help ourselves.
When someone said we Christians are all brainwashed, Barry McGuire (eve of destruction song) replied, -
the difference is we have CHOSEN Who we want to wash our brains........
That was a shitty song, too.
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 5, 2014 at 8:40 pm
(April 5, 2014 at 8:35 pm)professor Wrote: Yeah, we is all brainwashed dumb folk.
Cain't help ourselves.
When someone said we Christians are all brainwashed, Barry McGuire (eve of destruction song) replied, -
the difference is we have CHOSEN Who we want to wash our brains........
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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 5, 2014 at 8:43 pm
(April 5, 2014 at 8:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Good question, Chad. I wonder how many really believe the bullshit they've been fed?
I'm quite certain there are a lot of christians that may just go to church once a week, claim they worship god when asked, and move on with their lives. maybe they try to be good people, and wear their religion like a hat because everyone around them is wearing the same hat. They don't get into heated debates. They don't go to some church group 3+ times a week. They just try to be nice and don't rock the boat.
These are the luke warm christians that I've heard god will spit out because they don't give their all, or make sure they're glorifying god with every single action they take.
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 5, 2014 at 8:49 pm
(April 5, 2014 at 8:04 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Either they grew up on the happier parts, and ignored the horrible parts, or they just think there's nothing they can do about it, so they might as well go along with it. You don't want to be tortured in hell for eternity, do you?
Sometimes I wonder why christians even stay in the religion at all, and I realize that some really don't. They leave, and never look back. Some do because it's easier. They don't want to be ostracized, or risk being wrong.
Stockholm syndrome at its finest.
Are you saying the genuflect out of fear rather than love, and just don't want to admit it?
Anecdotally, this matches my situation fairly closely. Once I started to realize that I was doubting, I tried to make myself believe more out of fear than anything else. The more I thought about God, the less I saw him as all-loving.
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