Christmas should be Renamed.

[Edwardo Piet]

The only present I want is an Orbital tour t-shirt, and I'm very likely to get that after 'cashmas' anyway

EvF

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Calling a turd a rose won't make it smell any better.

[Rhizomorph13]

But what if it was a rose to begin with and it was coated in turds?

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

But what if it was a rose to begin with and it was coated in turds?

I did not equivocate pedant.

[TruthWorthy]

Maybe, like the stock exchange, call it present investment and relied social network market sceme.

[Edwardo Piet]

Instead of "Merry Christmas" from now on I think I might say "Jolly Jesusmas".

That's,

How bored,

I am.

EvF

[TruthWorthy]

that's the funny thing about agnostic agnostism, you neither enjoy the highs nor the lows as you can't decide if your only half way up or down, depending on whether you think to look at it that way.

[Autumnlicious]

Hey! Lets not forget the true meaning of Christmas! Like the birth of Santa Claus.

[Pippy]

Your family is "Pagan type" EvF, that is interesting. I did not know that.

Yes, like most of the religious activities nowadays, they are printed over what used to be astrological worship. I also celebrated Yule (Thule) with some friends and family. Love and respect (and divinity) of nature is a very pragmatic belief structure. There are things in life we cannot control, so we try to adhere to the rules and limitations of natural reality. It's an old school belief, but one that stands separate from bible hating...

[TruthWorthy]

christmas spirit is just a simulacrum, a virtual reality, where everyone adheres because everyone else is.
I've been refusing christmas presents for the past few years. I love it.