Vig-E-O games

[Edwardo Piet]

I can't possibly comment because that's one I've never played!

I also like the 2nd monkey Island. Didn't play much of the 3rd one, may finish it one day.

I love Simon the Sorcerer 1 and 2 as well.

And Broken Sword of course.

EvF

[leo-rcc]

Leisure Suit Larry: Passionate Patti in Pursuit of the Pulsating Pectorals.

Epic.

[Dotard]

Mr. Pippy;

Allow me to agree with you on a point.

Waco. I am from S. Texas. It's approx. a 2-3 hour ride to Waco. There is a couple hills in the area that with a good pair of binocs you could watch the action up-close.

I was there on a hill watching this unfold. I wasn't there on the day of the burning but I was following this quite closely.

I invite all to take the time and watch this series;

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I have watch other personally made videos the people on the surrounding hills made.

I am convinced the government killed these folks. I don't think purposely. I believe the gummit really thought they could light one side of the building on fire and the occupants would come scurrying out.

[Pippy]

Hey,

Thanks for adding, I am surprised to see an agreement. I think it was negligent, they didn't light the house on fire on purpose (other than the gassing and the tank and maybe firing rounds), but they did light the house on fire. I surely don't believe that the Seventh day Adventists did it after a 52 day siege. But there is an example, how many books, films, documentaries and seemingly "expert" sources may be telling something other than the whole truth about that incident?

I like when people accuse Koresh of pederasty, and then cross their arms all smug. Well, we could have asked the children, but they burned them alive. Oh being touched by grown ups sucks, but burning alive solves that problem...

And testing their Psy-ops in a military action against citizens, with the amplified dying bunny sounds and 'these boot's we're made for walking'. That incident, Waco, was one big reason why we left the States, it wasn't a good sign for the future. Where is Janet Reno now?

Thanks.

[Edwardo Piet]

Leisure Suit Larry: Passionate Patti in Pursuit of the Pulsating Pectorals.

Epic.

I've only ever played the original LSL lol.

EvF

[Dotard]

Janet Reno. Geez I dispise that wench.

"I take full responsibility" she says.

Those words mean SQUAT if there is no consequenses.

Where is she now? Probably sipping a cocktail on a beach somewhere. Laughing.

What I found questionable about Waco is 'they' sure did come out with a movie about the incident really soon afterwards portraying the ATF as victims and the good guys with the BD's portrayed as the evil, bad, child-raping anti-americans.

However, without knowing, when the very first time the ATF knocked on the door and the bullets started flying, who fired that first shot, the 'conspiracy' theory is weak.

Gotta keep in mind these folks were fruitcakes. Probably thinking the police were the army of the devil sent to destroy their 'revival'. Picking and choosing some bybull verses about battling the unbelievers or the army of darkness to justify their actions.

Intentionally murdered? I have serious doubts about that. Just way too many folks involved NOT to have someone, by this time, come forward. The police forces just 'fucked-up'. Tossing CS gas and smoke grenades into that structure in those winds present that day into the side up wind was stupid. At least one of those idiots in charge (Janet Reno?) should have realized those canisters get hot enough to start fires when set off.

Some have said wind was needed to disperse the gas throughout the structure. Ok fine. They did have fire trucks on site since the beginning for fear the BD's would mass suicide by lighting the place up themselves. Doubtful they would have helped much given the intensity of the fire, but the ATF's "were innocent" stance may have flown better if the trucks rolled up and began doing their thing once the fire started.

Then again concern for exploding weapons caches is valid.

Either-Or, intentional or not it is of my personal conclusion (ala pippy-style) the U.S. Government was responsible for the deaths that occured there. Responsible meaning someone should have paid a price. Janet Reno, since she accepts such responsibility, should have had her career end in shame. Fired and barred from any public trust employment in the least. Jail time if it was up to me.

[Pippy]

Well said.

The fire trucks were a mile back with the TV reporters, and were not allowed to fight the fire, which burned incredibly fast because of the winds. There were bodies in the back door leading out of the basement they were in with 30-30 rounds in their heads. I don't think I would decide to run out of a burning building, only to get to the doorway, and stop and shoot myself in the head with a rifle, which was the official finding of their deaths. The weapons cache is like the molestation. We have courts for that, not 52 day sieges ending in almost total death. The siege itself was a military action, which is very much illegal if you asked the Constitution.

"However, without knowing, when the very first time the ATF knocked on the door and the bullets started flying, who fired that first shot,"
And for that they asked to see the front door of Mount Carmel. It was taken for holding as evidence by, I beleive the FBI, and was promptly lost. No one has been able to find the front door, and it would be very compelling (although not airtight, get it?) evidence as to who shot first.

It's old news now, but that is the Federal mind. They did that, either murder or super-negligent idiot manslaughter. Then look at the holes in OK City. All of them. Even Fort Hood, V Tech, and this stupid underpants bomber. All raise some very pertinent questions that no one seems to want to answer.

I am happy to see that among a group of avowed skeptics and freethinkers, for once, someone considers a point differently than as it appears on Wiki. Thank you very much for sharing, and taking the time to read my rambling.

[Dotard]

Ruby Ridge is another one I question the official story.

I don't doubt the official stories about ALL of them. I've found MOST C.Theorists jump on any bandwagon and their ramblings read much like Adrians favorite theory concerning you and the New World Order.

I don't discount the possibility of those in power taking whatever means nessesary (up to and including murder and fabricating reasons to invade oil-rich countries) to ensure they remain in those positions of power and wealth. I don't doubt the possibility they may conspire together.

Do I believe this happens everytime Joe farts? No.
Everytime America captures a underwear bombing theist fruitcake? No.
Everytime a princess is kilt in a car crash? No.
Everytime America takes military action against another country? No.
Everytime Adrian gets freaky with the forum staff? Ya, it's possible, but No.

SOMETIMES the ramblings of pippy come across as if pippy is one who does.

[Pippy]

There is a lot of which I remain skeptical and in disbelief.

but I do know them all. The Ruby ridge/Waco/OK City triumvirate is kind of nostalgic nowadays. When the bad guys were still white. You name the event, there is a CT about it.

I consider a lot of thoughts and ideas, but I don't think that makes me crazy.