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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 21, 2014 at 3:16 pm
(April 21, 2014 at 2:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So now that it's taken literally seven seconds to rebut the first argument- not that I think Rev will actually acknowledge or understand that- anyone want to guess what the next six arguments will be?
I'm betting we'll get the argument from design, Kalam, and the watchmaker argument.
Or, wait... was this just about evolution? 
And remember, he said if we refute his seven arguments, he'll leave. I'd rather he just substantiate his claims than leave, but it leaves me to wonder, will he consider this argument refuted, or will he stick with the dishonest claim he's been swindled by?
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 21, 2014 at 3:20 pm
I sense shifting goalposts on the horizon.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 21, 2014 at 3:29 pm
(April 21, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I sense shifting goalposts on the horizon. Oh, I'm sure he'll find a way to move them even farther than that.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 21, 2014 at 3:30 pm
(April 21, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I sense shifting goalposts on the horizon.
That would represent more effort than he has yet put into his posts. He'll stick true to form and ignore what others have said, while mindlessly repeating the same tired points he cribbed from AIG.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 21, 2014 at 3:42 pm
(April 21, 2014 at 3:30 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: (April 21, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I sense shifting goalposts on the horizon.
That would represent more effort than he has yet put into his posts. He'll stick true to form and ignore what others have said, while mindlessly repeating the same tired points he cribbed from AIG.
Thank you for your responses. I will look at them this evening. =)
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 21, 2014 at 3:43 pm
(April 21, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Tonus Wrote: (April 21, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I sense shifting goalposts on the horizon. Oh, I'm sure he'll find a way to move them even farther than that.
Not likely, he's too afraid of falling off.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 21, 2014 at 3:44 pm
(April 21, 2014 at 3:42 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: (April 21, 2014 at 3:30 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: That would represent more effort than he has yet put into his posts. He'll stick true to form and ignore what others have said, while mindlessly repeating the same tired points he cribbed from AIG.
Thank you for your responses. I will look at them this evening. =)
Better yet, why not read a book on the subject? Hell, everyone should read at least two damn books in their lives!
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 21, 2014 at 3:46 pm
(April 21, 2014 at 3:42 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Thank you for your responses. I will look at them this evening. =)
A simple request, before you respond: look at your sources. Search their webpages in the "about us" section for a statement of faith.
If they even have one of those, disregard the opinions of that source. Science does not require faith, and any source that does, and displays it proudly, is not doing honest science.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 21, 2014 at 3:47 pm
(April 21, 2014 at 3:43 pm)Cato Wrote: (April 21, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Tonus Wrote: Oh, I'm sure he'll find a way to move them even farther than that.
Not likely, he's too afraid of falling off.
Come on, all bible believing Christians known the earth is at the center of the universe, where can you fall off to from there?
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 21, 2014 at 3:49 pm
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(April 21, 2014 at 3:46 pm)Esquilax Wrote: A simple request, before you respond: look at your sources. Search their webpages in the "about us" section for a statement of faith.
If they even have one of those, disregard the opinions of that source. Science does not require faith, and any source that does, and displays it proudly, is not doing honest science.
Particularly disregard any sources that have anything resembling "By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record."
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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