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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 3:51 pm
(April 29, 2014 at 2:53 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: And yet in his mind he will have won. I'm less concerned with his delusions than I am in whether or not he can provide some entertainment. I am prepared to be disappointed.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 4:07 pm
(This post was last modified: April 29, 2014 at 4:08 pm by SteelCurtain.)
(April 29, 2014 at 3:17 pm)pocaracas Wrote: You can't force anyone to engage, around here...
You can just force them to stay away.... actually, it's not you... but Esq can.
Anyway, we just keep pounding him in a way that he reads and pays a minimum of attention.
Keep the profanities to a low, because we know these people will shut down at the sight of them and talk politely.
That's my strategy, at least... In a few years, we'll see if it works... That was my argument, though. Get him one on one with Esq, and he can't just answer the easy questions. He answers the tough ones or he doesn't, but he can't evade and continue the dialogue. It will give him no outs other than quitting.
I just think we're in for three months of this thread, different topic, same tactics otherwise.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 30, 2014 at 9:55 pm
(April 29, 2014 at 4:07 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: (April 29, 2014 at 3:17 pm)pocaracas Wrote: You can't force anyone to engage, around here...
You can just force them to stay away.... actually, it's not you... but Esq can.
Anyway, we just keep pounding him in a way that he reads and pays a minimum of attention.
Keep the profanities to a low, because we know these people will shut down at the sight of them and talk politely.
That's my strategy, at least... In a few years, we'll see if it works... That was my argument, though. Get him one on one with Esq, and he can't just answer the easy questions. He answers the tough ones or he doesn't, but he can't evade and continue the dialogue. It will give him no outs other than quitting.
I just think we're in for three months of this thread, different topic, same tactics otherwise.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 30, 2014 at 9:58 pm
And what, exactly, are you laughing about, Rev?
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 30, 2014 at 9:59 pm
Question rev. Do you really want to know what a transitional fossil is, or are you really trying to just ignore everybody but ask a question you want an answer to?
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
May 1, 2014 at 3:19 pm
(April 30, 2014 at 9:59 pm)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote: Question rev. Do you really want to know what a transitional fossil is, or are you really trying to just ignore everybody but ask a question you want an answer to?
A transitional fossil is one that doesn't exist, because Rev assumes that all fossils belong to "final forms". So, when we find another link, he sees a brand new (final form) animal that was previously undiscovered.
Basically, all contradictory evidence has already been dismissed before it's even been brought to the table.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
May 1, 2014 at 3:28 pm
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2014 at 3:48 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(April 30, 2014 at 9:58 pm)Esquilax Wrote: And what, exactly, are you laughing about, Rev?
He laugh in lieu of having anything respectable to say. It gives him that ostrich-head-in-sand joy of thinking he had won even while he had nothing respectable to say.
He is not acting this way to defend christianity. He is acting this way because he is christian. All that christianity has ever been about is to confer that ostrich-head-in-sand joy upon idiots like him so that their saints, prophets, priests, deacons, and preachers can fleece them to support their own somewhat more substantive joy of kitshy bling, vacation homes, Private jets, Rolls Royces and gay prostitutes.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
May 1, 2014 at 3:55 pm
(April 30, 2014 at 9:58 pm)Esquilax Wrote: And what, exactly, are you laughing about, Rev?
He's laughing because he knows it's true and that we will all foolishly swarm around like moths to a flame.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
May 1, 2014 at 5:03 pm
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2014 at 5:03 pm by Ryantology.)
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Re: RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
May 1, 2014 at 5:34 pm
(May 1, 2014 at 3:55 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (April 30, 2014 at 9:58 pm)Esquilax Wrote: And what, exactly, are you laughing about, Rev?
He's laughing because he knows it's true and that we will all foolishly swarm around like moths to a flame.
This is the guilt I feel when I participate in these threads. We flock to this, and Rev's just confirming his ridiculous bias with every post. I have a feeling he's just copy/pasting all this (quote mined, of course) into some christer forum somewhere.
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