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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:26 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: I would not bend knee to the sick bastard described in the buy-bull for the same reason I would not remain in an abusive relationship. It IS hell!
Okay so you choose hell. What is the argument? I simply ask you reconsider your choice.
(April 27, 2014 at 5:22 pm)Losty Wrote: Prove it 
Prove your view. You're the ones presenting this viewpoint to a prominatly religious world.
Why does his choice matter to you Cuntface?
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:26 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:16 pm)Losty Wrote: He created them to be the kind of people who would need evidence to believe in something. He did force them to choose by creating them. He is all powerful and all knowing right? So he used his power to create atheists knowing full well before they were ever created that they would never believe in him because he created them to be the kind of person who wouldn't believe. He made them that way so he could he off on torturing them? Because he is all loving right?
People begin as a blank slate. Those who need evidence to believe in the obvious choose to become that way, instead of simply not questioning the creator of the universe.
And your god created them knowing full well what they would become. Either you create people knowing they won't believe because you want to burn them or you don't fucking create them.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:27 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: I would not bend knee to the sick bastard described in the buy-bull for the same reason I would not remain in an abusive relationship. It IS hell!
Okay so you choose hell. What is the argument? I simply ask you reconsider your choice.
(April 27, 2014 at 5:22 pm)Losty Wrote: Prove it
Prove your view. You're the ones presenting this viewpoint to a prominatly religious world.
Quit shifting the burden of proof. You make the claim, you get to prove it.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:27 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:25 pm)Raeven Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Stephanie Wrote: People begin as a blank slate. Those who need evidence to believe in the obvious choose to become that way, instead of simply not questioning the creator of the universe.
LOL, ahhhh, I see!! You've enlightened me at last.
Your deity wants to torture the smart atheists for all eternity, being a LOVING god and all, but the dumbass sheep who follow without question, without examining the actual, natural world around them... those idiots, he wants to hang out with. I should think things would get pretty boring very fast.
You choose to be a "smart" atheist. The religious are the more logical. I mean, do you believe Barack Obama exists? You've never seen him in person I assume, so why assume he exists? You've probably seen footage, but that could be a "lie" just like the bible.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:27 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:22 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:16 pm)rasetsu Wrote: So, he could have not given atheists free will or chosen to burn all of them in hell.
Were the atheists polled on this before he made his decision? No? Then it was God's choice which caused this.
You were given the ultimate gift of life. Anyone would choose this. You are choosing to squander it.
(April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Losty Wrote: Ahhh and now the truth comes out. You're just here trolling because you hate rational people. Okay okay we get it. You can fuck off now.
I am truly rational. What you call "rational" is naively believing that nothing created everything. You are truly something...I wouldn't call it rational though
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:28 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: I would not bend knee to the sick bastard described in the buy-bull for the same reason I would not remain in an abusive relationship. It IS hell!
Okay so you choose hell. What is the argument? I simply ask you reconsider your choice.
(April 27, 2014 at 5:22 pm)Losty Wrote: Prove it
Prove your view. You're the ones presenting this viewpoint to a prominatly religious world.
Failure of burden of proof.
You claim your deity, heaven and hell all exist.
You need to prove it.
Yes, the majority of the world are religious.
Your argument might hold merit if they all followed the same religion. But the don't. There are even around 10,000 denominations of Christianity.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:28 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:26 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm)Stephanie Wrote: So if God appeared to you you would worship him?
That would be dependent upon god.
If he was to be proven as psychotic and tyrannical as the bible suggests, then there would be no rational reason for worshipping such a corrupt deity.
Therefore you would choose hell. Alright now I understand.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:29 pm
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(April 27, 2014 at 5:17 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:14 pm)ManMachine Wrote: If there is a god, why would he gift me with the intellect to reason he doesn't exist.
You'd think he would be a bit smarter, being a god an all that.
Knowledge is a weapon from Satan that he attempts to use to detract from our purpose on this planet.
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7
Your bible tell us that god is responsible for creating everything, even evil. So that Satan story is just dishonest. What sort of god would make his believers lie in his name?
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:29 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Stephanie Wrote: No because Moses opened his heart already to God.
According to the Bible Moses married the daughter of a Midianite priest.
Midian Biblical References
Quote:Cozbi, daughter of the Midianite chief Zur, was speared by Phinehas together with Zimri. Zimri was the son of a Simeonite chief, while Cozbi was a Midianite woman taken into his family by Zimri.[9] The Midianite women's seductions of Israelites to their idol Baal-phegor is stated as the cause of offense to God; they were racially akin to the Israelites as descendants of Abraham, and Moses own wife Zipporah was Midianite
Soon after, God instructs Moses to collect an army and destroy Midian.[10] The Israelites kill every Midianite male including Zur and four other named chiefs, and every woman who has slept with a man (Book of Numbers 31:17), but share out 32,000 girls who have never slept with a man as plunder (Book of Numbers 31:35).
This indicates that the Midianites didn't worship God. Moses was brought up in the Egyptian court, fled to Midian after killing an Egyptian and was there for 40 years before the burning bush incident. Where and when did Moses hear of God so he could open his heart to him?
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 5:29 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:26 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Stephanie Wrote: People begin as a blank slate. Those who need evidence to believe in the obvious choose to become that way, instead of simply not questioning the creator of the universe.
Why is it obvious?
If there's no evidence of your God, how do you know it's the creator?
How do you know you don't worship a false God?
Because my parents have both seen and spoken to Him.
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