(April 27, 2014 at 5:16 pm)Losty Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm)Stephanie Wrote: So if God appeared to you you would worship him?

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HE DID NOT FORCE THEM TO CHOOSE HELL. THEY CHOOSE. HE MERELY GAVE THEM THE FREE WILL TO CHOOSE.

He created them to be the kind of people who would need evidence to believe in something. He did force them to choose by creating them. He is all powerful and all knowing right? So he used his power to create atheists knowing full well before they were ever created that they would never believe in him because he created them to be the kind of person who wouldn't believe. He made them that way so he could he off on torturing them? Because he is all loving right?

People begin as a blank slate. Those who need evidence to believe in the obvious choose to become that way, instead of simply not questioning the creator of the universe.

YOU WILL BURN IN THE FIRES OF HADES IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN ZEUS! BELIEVE HEATHEN!!!!

(April 27, 2014 at 5:16 pm)Stephanie Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: If I must imagine a hell as I must also imagine a god's existence, then I suppose there could be no worse hell than that which we create for ourselves on earth. The hell we create from life itself is enough without having to imagine that there is one after life as well.

Until such proof can be provided to me, whereby I do not have to pull the veil of blind belief over my mind, then it is more logical to continue in my understanding that god and hell do not exist except in the sadly deluded minds of men.

Compliance through fear, after all, is hardly a worthy notion of engendering believers.

You choose to ignore the reality that he exists.

Prove it

(April 27, 2014 at 5:16 pm)rasetsu Wrote: So, he could have not given atheists free will or chosen to burn all of them in hell.

Were the atheists polled on this before he made his decision? No? Then it was God's choice which caused this.

You were given the ultimate gift of life. Anyone would choose this. You are choosing to squander it.

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(April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Losty Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:14 pm)Stephanie Wrote: It is the person's fault for be so-called "rational". And his plan includes humans doing whatever they wish to (with concequence of course).

Ahhh and now the truth comes out. You're just here trolling because you hate rational people. Okay okay we get it. You can fuck off now.

I am truly rational. What you call "rational" is naively believing that nothing created everything.

(April 27, 2014 at 5:22 pm)Stephanie Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:16 pm)rasetsu Wrote: So, he could have not given atheists free will or chosen to burn all of them in hell.

Were the atheists polled on this before he made his decision? No? Then it was God's choice which caused this.

You were given the ultimate gift of life. Anyone would choose this. You are choosing to squander it.

Evidence for your claims or shut the fuck up. Seriously, at this point you're just being tiresome.

(April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:20 pm)Stephanie Wrote: See, you would willingly choose hell.

I would not bend knee to the sick bastard described in the buy-bull for the same reason I would not remain in an abusive relationship. It IS hell!

Okay so you choose hell. What is the argument? I simply ask you reconsider your choice.

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(April 27, 2014 at 5:22 pm)Losty Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:16 pm)Stephanie Wrote: You choose to ignore the reality that he exists.

Prove it

Prove your view. You're the ones presenting this viewpoint to a prominatly religious world.

(April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Stephanie Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:16 pm)Losty Wrote: He created them to be the kind of people who would need evidence to believe in something. He did force them to choose by creating them. He is all powerful and all knowing right? So he used his power to create atheists knowing full well before they were ever created that they would never believe in him because he created them to be the kind of person who wouldn't believe. He made them that way so he could he off on torturing them? Because he is all loving right?

People begin as a blank slate. Those who need evidence to believe in the obvious choose to become that way, instead of simply not questioning the creator of the universe.

LOL, ahhhh, I see!! You've enlightened me at last.

Your deity wants to torture the smart atheists for all eternity, being a LOVING god and all, but the dumbass sheep who follow without question, without examining the actual, natural world around them... those idiots, he wants to hang out with. I should think things would get pretty boring very fast.

(April 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm)Stephanie Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: I would not bend knee to the sick bastard described in the buy-bull for the same reason I would not remain in an abusive relationship. It IS hell!

Okay so you choose hell. What is the argument? I simply ask you reconsider your choice.

No, you're asking me to become the abused in an abusive relationship.

Evidence for you gawd or STFU.

(April 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm)Stephanie Wrote: So if God appeared to you you would worship him?

That would be dependent upon god.

If he was to be proven as psychotic and tyrannical as the bible suggests, then there would be no rational reason for worshipping such a corrupt deity.

(April 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Stephanie Wrote:

(April 27, 2014 at 5:16 pm)Losty Wrote: He created them to be the kind of people who would need evidence to believe in something. He did force them to choose by creating them. He is all powerful and all knowing right? So he used his power to create atheists knowing full well before they were ever created that they would never believe in him because he created them to be the kind of person who wouldn't believe. He made them that way so he could he off on torturing them? Because he is all loving right?

People begin as a blank slate. Those who need evidence to believe in the obvious choose to become that way, instead of simply not questioning the creator of the universe.

Why is it obvious?

If there's no evidence of your God, how do you know it's the creator?

How do you know you don't worship a false God?