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1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless "suckling" infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.
Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies.
Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocks”.
Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.”
Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.
Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will “thrust you through,” smash your children “to pieces” before your eyes, and rape your wife.
Mark 7:9 Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law.
Proverbs 13:24, 19:18, 22:15, 23:13-14 & 29:15 God commands repeatedly that you beat your children.
I don't know just looking for justification.
Do not use the bible to justify your answer
You have the arrogance to pull verses from scripture and not allow the scriptures to be used in defense, then form now own I will not allow any references from scientific materials to be used in post when we pull things out of scientific material, what say you.
Now I'm going to disregard your stupid request.
1st Samuel 15:3 God swore to eliminate the Amalekites and He couldn't do this without the killing off the infants and children. What you do not understand is that these infants and children are part of eternity with God, unlike their parents. Those children are very glad they are going to always be with their creator, eternally happy. God makes provision for the innocent and the guilty.
Psalm 135: 8 This is part of a list of things done to free the Israelites and set them up in the land He promised, God is being praised for freeing Israel and placing them in the promised land. Of coarse the Israelites don't know God took the innocent to eternity, by the way many of the first born were adults, are you the first born of your father or is it one of your older siblings.
Psalm 136:10 Same as above
Psalm 137:9 This is a psalm written by a man in agony over what has happened to Israel, this is his wish for his enemies, not what God has commanded. You need to read and study what the scriptures actually say rather than post hearsay from what ever biased resource you can find that gives only hateful comments.
Leviticus 20:9 Please show us where you saw the words little children, also you need to understand the family structure and respect of those time. I know today's children believe it's okay to disrespect their parents but that's not the way these people lived and actually the children of today could learn a lesson from those children.
Judges 11:30-40 You are a liar, flat out a liar, God did not command this. Japhthah did what he thought he should and his daughter agreed with him. He wasn't correct in what he did in my opinion and if I'm not mistaken God had given a commandment for man not to swear an oath in His name. God never commanded this period, you mislead people by your lying and uninformed little mind. Remember that respect I was telling you about earlier in this post, even unto her death.
Isaiah 13:15-18 God did stir up the Medes to destroy Babylon, to punish Babylon for the treatment of Israel will they were in captivity. God did not say He would directly do these things to the Babylonians, He described through His prophet what the Medes would do to the Babylonians, He let them know the fierce nature of the Medes and what was coming from them.
Mark 7:9 Again you lie and intentionally, there is no other way to say it. If you can't understand what the verses from verse 5 to 13 state then you should just give up on your brain. Again lying to propagate ill will towards God and His people. Shame is what you should feel for being so dumb as to not understand those verses.
Proverbs 13:24 This is about discipline not beating, show m where the scripture calls for a beating. Again you are a liar and what you say from now own will carry no weight.
Proverbs 19:18 This verse reads. Discipline your son while there is hope,
And do not desire his death. Doesn't sound like a beating and the verse does not even state what the discipline should be.
Proverbs 22:15 The proverb states that foolish hearted children should be disciplined, foolishness usually leads to trouble, the proverb calls to help a child to avoid foolishness.
Proverb 23:13-14 The word translated beat in these verse is 'nakah' which means to strike lightly or severely, literally of figuratively. So the verse does not say which and taken in context of the other verses I do not believe it was meant as severely, even if it does mean severely the verse is about saving the child from hell.
Proverbs 29:15 The rod and reproof give wisdom,
But a child who gets his own way brings shame to his mother.
I've seen this proverb come to fruition more times than I care to count, it's even evident on this forum. Remember the respect thing I eluded to earlier in this post.
I see why you didn't want anyone looking to closely to these verses, they in themselves have made you out as the liar you are and scripture says this will happen to those who are like Proverbs 19:1 Better is a poor man who walks in integrity, than he who is perverse in speech and is a fool.
GC
(May 5, 2014 at 5:52 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: That's ironic, coming from a hate-peddler.
Want to bring proof of that sonny boy.
GC
You have proved it yourself by the above post justifying your god's psychotic behavior.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
I'll reply only to one without touching too much on the glorification of genocide.
"1st Samuel 15:3 God swore to eliminate the Amalekites and He couldn't do this without the killing off the infants and children. What you do not understand is that these infants and children are part of eternity with God, unlike their parents. Those children are very glad they are going to always be with their creator, eternally happy. God makes provision for the innocent and the guilty."
How do you know? Have you talked to these children? Wouldn't it have been better to have let the children live, to be raised by the "good" Israelite people so that they could live long lives as "decent" people and earn their places by the side of the great evil . . . I mean your deity?
I know because the scripture say they will be there, simple really.
If those children had be left with the Israelites they would married and had other Amalekites, thus keeping that particular people continuing. Also, God did not want the Israelites to marry outside themselves, He told them this when they were wandering in the wilderness.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
May 7, 2014 at 4:28 am (This post was last modified: May 7, 2014 at 4:29 am by Ryantology.)
Why not make them all sterile a hundred years ahead of time, accomplishing exactly the same results without any bloodshed? Oh, right, then there would be all that non-procreative fucking, and God hates that more than anything so GOOD POINT NO OTHER SOLUTION BUT TO SLAUGHTER THEM ALL IN COLD BLOOD
(May 7, 2014 at 4:23 am)Godschild Wrote: I know because the scripture say they will be there, simple really.
Hey GC, next time you want to justify your claims of knowledge with circular reasoning, how about you just make fart noises with your mouth and move on, instead of wasting everybody's time?
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May 7, 2014 at 4:36 am (This post was last modified: May 7, 2014 at 4:40 am by Godscreated.)
(May 6, 2014 at 1:04 am)Esquilax Wrote:
GC Wrote:After a few weeks off I return to a place where the atheist have become more vile in their ways toward Christians. Hatred breeds hatred and I see it in action here, so you want proof of things here it is and if you do not believe this then you are truly blind.
If all we're doing is persecuting you, then fuck off and leave, you poor baby. Nobody is keeping you here, if it's so awful. The fact that you stay and come back is evidence enough that you're full of shit and just here to play pretend about being the victim.
Seriously, fucking leave. Nobody will miss you.
You didn't see me complaining about persecution, the Christians in this country are not being persecuted. Telling the truth about how people here act and you in particular is not crying persecution.
Now that I know how much it upsets you for me to be around I will never ever leave, I'm staying if for no other reason than to get under your skin.
GC @ BlackSwordsman, I gave you valid answers, just because you don't like hearing the truth doesn't mean I wasn't using my brain, it means you're to full of hate for Christians to see anything.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(May 7, 2014 at 4:36 am)Godschild Wrote: Now that I know how much it upsets you for me to be around I will never ever leave, I'm staying if for no other reason than to get under your skin.
GC
There's that christian maturity and grace towards all people I keep hearing about.
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(May 6, 2014 at 1:04 am)Esquilax Wrote: If all we're doing is persecuting you, then fuck off and leave, you poor baby. Nobody is keeping you here, if it's so awful. The fact that you stay and come back is evidence enough that you're full of shit and just here to play pretend about being the victim.
Seriously, fucking leave. Nobody will miss you.
You didn't see me complaining about persecution, the Christians in this country are not being persecuted. Telling the truth about how people here act and you in particular is not crying persecution.
Now that I know how much it upsets you for me to be around I will never ever leave, I'm staying if for no other reason than to get under your skin.
GC @ BlackSwordsman, I gave you valid answers, just because you don't like hearing the truth doesn't mean I wasn't using my brain, it means you're to full of hate for Christians to see anything.
GC
Proving by this post that you really are a stupid fucking asshole.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
(May 6, 2014 at 1:04 am)Esquilax Wrote: If all we're doing is persecuting you, then fuck off and leave, you poor baby. Nobody is keeping you here, if it's so awful. The fact that you stay and come back is evidence enough that you're full of shit and just here to play pretend about being the victim.
Seriously, fucking leave. Nobody will miss you.
You didn't see me complaining about persecution, the Christians in this country are not being persecuted. Telling the truth about how people here act and you in particular is not crying persecution.
Now that I know how much it upsets you for me to be around I will never ever leave, I'm staying if for no other reason than to get under your skin. :clap-clap:
GC @ BlackSwordsman, I gave you valid answers, just because you don't like hearing the truth doesn't mean I wasn't using my brain, it means you're to full of hate for Christians to see anything.
GC
I can't imagine the volume of lead paint chips you'd have to eat as a child to think you're making valid points. How are you still alive?
(May 7, 2014 at 7:17 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: I can't imagine the volume of lead paint chips you'd have to eat as a child to think you're making valid points. How are you still alive?
What do you think communion wafers are made of? It explains a great deal, actually.
(May 4, 2014 at 2:18 am)Esquilax Wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, here we have exhibit A for how christianity turns you into a callous, infantile monster.
I'd like to reply to this and all the other scathing remarks about the above post. All I hear on this forum is how irrational christians are. Now this was a very rational statement and I get it for being callous. Christians believe in eternal life. If I die as an infant and I meet someone in heaven who died at 100 years old, I'm not going to be upset because he got to live longer than me. We both have eternity. In fact, I might be grateful that I died fast instead of suffering a long and painful death.
Since you're being so rational, do you acknowledge that the logical conclusion of this system being in place is that the younger you die, the better?
(May 5, 2014 at 3:09 pm)Lek Wrote: If my kids died now, I would be devastated because I love them I'd miss them. In fact, I'll be devastated whenever they die. But I'd be happy to know that they're in heaven and living a joyous existence. To a christian life on earth is important, but it's only a minute part of our total existence.
Then wouldn't it be better for your children to die now, despite the pain to their loved ones? Does living longer not increase the chance that something will change in their life resulting in them not going to heaven? Why take that chance for a minute part of their total existence?
(May 5, 2014 at 3:09 pm)Lek Wrote: As far as why God kills babies, all I said was my true thoughts. It's for the same reason he kills adults. Before mankind's sin, there was no death and afterwards there was death.
So Adam and Eve didn't need to eat of the fruit of the tree of eternal life, they were going to live forever anyway as long as they didn't eat the other forbidden fruit? But if they'd have eaten the forbidden fruit of eternal life, they would have lived forever despite disobeying God?
(May 5, 2014 at 3:09 pm)Lek Wrote: Like I said, we don't know the mind of God. We're not allowed to murder and in fact we're commanded to love and care for our neighbors and even our enemies. We are to leave justice and vengeance to God and go on loving just as Jesus demonstrated.
Do you not see the contradiction in claiming we can't know the mind of God, then telling us how God wants us to act?
I don't think you're callous, I just think you're not thinking things through.
