God lives within us faith.

[Chad32]

Currently I am at a hospital. About 3 weeks ago, I had a discussion with one of the workers who turned out to believe in God without religion like me. She said she believes God lives inside us all. I know what she meant and she made the point not to take it too literally.

I remember the scene from the Lion King where Rafeeki tells Simba that his father lives within him.

I feel this is the case with God. God is like the sword of the soul, the spiritual guide, but our access to him is imperfect.

If we are connected to God, how would I explain atheism? I think it might be like the case where atheists are being held by God, God lives within them, and they are connected to this reality, but they just fail to recognize the phenomenon. They take all the mystical presence as a natural phenomenon.

But the believers witnesses something incredible instead. He witnesses the real existing of the universal spirit (god) and it's living reality within us. The howness of this witnessing is hard to explain, but the witness is not only the effect but the link to the source and consequently the existence of the source. It's witnessing is not just a concept in the mind but be consumed into an existence where one is existence but non-existence, manifesting the universal existence. This is by being consumed into the existence of the divine as if witnessing yourself, you witness that being, because you exist through it and you are of that existence.

It lives inside of us to the extent we can witness each passing moment is caused by it's very existent. It's not our existence that keeps existing, it's his.

But most of all, it's a direct witnessing. It's process where there is no argument or effect that needs to be witnessed aside from the divine existing.

I wonder how many Theists believe God lives within us like I and her do?

From an Atheistic perspective, is this simply dismissed or do you think it's plausible your perspective is not in tune with the divine because of other factors?

What kind of God are you thinking about that lives within you? The deities in the Bible and the Koran don't live in people.

The holy spirit is said to be within people, from what I've heard. He's the omnipresent part of the deity.

[Confused Ape]

If we are connected to God, how would I explain atheism? I think it might be like the case where atheists are being held by God, God lives within them, and they are connected to this reality, but they just fail to recognize the phenomenon. They take all the mystical presence as a natural phenomenon.

Here's a Carl Sagan quote from Cosmos.

“The surface of the Earth is the shore of the cosmic ocean.[/b] On this shore, we've learned most of what we know. Recently, we've waded a little way out, maybe ankle-deep, and the water seems inviting. Some part of our being knows this is where we came from. We long to return, and we can, because the cosmos is also within us . We're made of star stuff. We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.

So, Is The Universe Conscious?

A recurring idea in the belief systems of the world is the notion that human beings are composed of two separate and separable parts: a physical body and an immaterial mind or soul.

Evolutionary theory completely overthrows this view. From an evolutionary perspective, it is impossible to maintain that the mind stands outside nature. Instead, it is a tiny fragment of nature, valued only by those tiny fragments of nature that possess it. Mind is not something separate from matter; it is a process embodied in matter.

Now here's the point: When we fully digest that the mind is the activity of an evolved brain, it radically transforms our view of the mind's place in the universe - and our view of the universe itself. The physical universe ceases to be an unconscious object, observed and explored by conscious minds which somehow stand above or outside it. Conscious minds are part of the physical universe, as much as rocks and potato peelers. Our consciousness is not simply consciousness of the universe; our consciousness is a part of the universe, and thus the universe itself is partially conscious. When you contemplate the universe, part of the universe becomes conscious of itself.

Similarly, our knowledge of the universe is not something separate from the universe; it is a part of the universe. Thus, for humans to know the universe is for the universe to know itself.

So, is it God or the cosmos within us? I'm guessing it's the same feeling but interpretations differ depending on whether people believe in supernatural beings or not.

[RobbyPants]

If we are connected to God, how would I explain atheism? I think it might be like the case where atheists are being held by God, God lives within them, and they are connected to this reality, but they just fail to recognize the phenomenon. They take all the mystical presence as a natural phenomenon.

Yes, if. If you can prove that, then you can try to figure out how atheism fits in. Until that point, trying to figure it out is you starting with a conclusion and then working backward to try to establish your premises.

But the believers witnesses something incredible instead. He witnesses the real existing of the universal spirit (god) and it's living reality within us. The howness of this witnessing is hard to explain, but the witness is not only the effect but the link to the source and consequently the existence of the source. It's witnessing is not just a concept in the mind but be consumed into an existence where one is existence but non-existence, manifesting the universal existence. This is by being consumed into the existence of the divine as if witnessing yourself, you witness that being, because you exist through it and you are of that existence.

I honestly have no idea what you're saying here. It's word salad. The best I can pick out is something akin to saying that believers have a strong personal experience, therefore God. A lot of people have strong personal experiences. It doesn't make non-provable ideas living in their heads turn into actual reality.

From an Atheistic perspective, is this simply dismissed or do you think it's plausible your perspective is not in tune with the divine because of other factors?

I think it's plausible in the same way that I think it's plausible that unicorns exist in some dark corner of a currently unexplored forest. Just because something is nonfalsifiable doesn't mean I have to take it seriously. Argument from ignorance, and all.

[ThePinsir]

I think if God would write words in the sky saying he exists, it would make faith dry and too easy and dull.

I think faith in the unseen and the unseen journey is a more enriching experience.

I feel this is a major difference I have with atheists. I don't want some sort of mathematical proof of God's existence or miracles showing he exists. I rather have this inner reflection and reflection of the divine and build a relationship on God through faith in his unseen names and attributes that seem like foundation to my existence.

I rather have this non-evidence universe.

I, too, used to play pretend. I grew up though.

[RaisdCath]

Currently I am at a hospital. About 3 weeks ago, I had a discussion with one of the workers who turned out to believe in God without religion like me. She said she believes God lives inside us all. I know what she meant and she made the point not to take it too literally.

I remember the scene from the Lion King where Rafeeki tells Simba that his father lives within him.

I feel this is the case with God. God is like the sword of the soul, the spiritual guide, but our access to him is imperfect.

If we are connected to God, how would I explain atheism? I think it might be like the case where atheists are being held by God, God lives within them, and they are connected to this reality, but they just fail to recognize the phenomenon. They take all the mystical presence as a natural phenomenon.

But the believers witnesses something incredible instead. He witnesses the real existing of the universal spirit (god) and it's living reality within us. The howness of this witnessing is hard to explain, but the witness is not only the effect but the link to the source and consequently the existence of the source. It's witnessing is not just a concept in the mind but be consumed into an existence where one is existence but non-existence, manifesting the universal existence. This is by being consumed into the existence of the divine as if witnessing yourself, you witness that being, because you exist through it and you are of that existence.

It lives inside of us to the extent we can witness each passing moment is caused by it's very existent. It's not our existence that keeps existing, it's his.

But most of all, it's a direct witnessing. It's process where there is no argument or effect that needs to be witnessed aside from the divine existing.

I wonder how many Theists believe God lives within us like I and her do?

From an Atheistic perspective, is this simply dismissed or do you think it's plausible your perspective is not in tune with the divine because of other factors?

Where does your (and her) god go....what does your god do.....how does your god act....when you (or she) is under a general anesthetic?

[Simon Moon]

Currently I am at a hospital. About 3 weeks ago, I had a discussion with one of the workers who turned out to believe in God without religion like me. She said she believes God lives inside us all. I know what she meant and she made the point not to take it too literally.

I remember the scene from the Lion King where Rafeeki tells Simba that his father lives within him.

I feel this is the case with God. God is like the sword of the soul, the spiritual guide, but our access to him is imperfect.

If we are connected to God, how would I explain atheism? I think it might be like the case where atheists are being held by God, God lives within them, and they are connected to this reality, but they just fail to recognize the phenomenon. They take all the mystical presence as a natural phenomenon.

But the believers witnesses something incredible instead. He witnesses the real existing of the universal spirit (god) and it's living reality within us. The howness of this witnessing is hard to explain, but the witness is not only the effect but the link to the source and consequently the existence of the source. It's witnessing is not just a concept in the mind but be consumed into an existence where one is existence but non-existence, manifesting the universal existence. This is by being consumed into the existence of the divine as if witnessing yourself, you witness that being, because you exist through it and you are of that existence.

It lives inside of us to the extent we can witness each passing moment is caused by it's very existent. It's not our existence that keeps existing, it's his.

But most of all, it's a direct witnessing. It's process where there is no argument or effect that needs to be witnessed aside from the divine existing.

I wonder how many Theists believe God lives within us like I and her do?

Do you actually care whether your beliefs are true or not? If you do, how would you go about determining if all of the above assertions of yours are actually true, or self-delusion (or wishful thinking)?

From an Atheistic perspective, is this simply dismissed or do you think it's plausible your perspective is not in tune with the divine because of other factors?

What a flawed question this is!

I dismiss your baseless assertions because you have not provided evidence, reasoned argument and valid/sound logic to support them. Why should any of us accept any of your un-evidenced, illogical assertions?

Unless you can provide anything other than your wishful thinking that this alleged 'divine' exists in reality, it is not at all plausible that we are not 'in tune' with it.

I don't think you know what the word 'plausible' means.


As a side note, why are you calling yourself a 'Deist'? Your beliefs are in no way aligned with Deism.

[Anomalocaris]

I rather have this non-evidence universe.

Here is the crux. So it is not that god actually exists. It is that you would rather god exists, so you lie to yourself and claim he actually exists.

You think it is Okay, We think that is contemptible.

[MJ the Skeptical]

So, Mystic knight is a deist in his religious views section, but a Muslim with Islamic propaganda in his sig...

I wonder how cognitive dissonance takes hold of the brain like that.

[Tonus]

I think if God would write words in the sky saying he exists, it would make faith dry and too easy and dull.

I think faith in the unseen and the unseen journey is a more enriching experience.

That seems more like a question of human psychology. We are driven to justify our actions and beliefs to the degree that we may even conform to something that we invented specifically to explain an action or attitude we didn't really mean to take. It is like the scenes in those Pink Panther movies, where the bumbling Inspector Clouseau, having taken a nasty pratfall, insists that he had intended to do so the whole time.

You cannot find god, but you want to believe that he exists and that he cares for you. So you determine that hiding from you is really the best possible approach that he could take-- that revealing himself would be far more of a negative than a positive action, regardless of how bizarre that seems. "God" is indeed within all of us, if we define "god" as that internal drive that makes us whoever we are. But that's it, really. And "god" works to our detriment more likely than not if we let him run the show.

[BlackSwordsman]

'god' does not give us faith, quite the opposite really. He asks us for faith that he is the one (out of billions) true god, he asks us to believe things that no one can prove. Believe in me (believe I am real) versus Believe me (Believe I am right, for it will lead to salvation).

You mentioned being in a hospital, many people believe in a god, because in reality facing the truth is harder then deluding oneself