Is suicide wrong?

[Whateverist]

Simple question, is suicide wrong, morally or otherwise?

No. But it isn't reversible. Hard to say how nothing would stack up against anything. I've savored some dregs but looking back it was better to do so than to miss all that has come since. Perhaps it is possible just to restart without fully shutting the machine down. What would that look like and is it possible?

[Mystical]

People have decision-making skills, suicidal or not. If a suicidal person agrees to be committed, no problem.

The problem I've had with both my dad and my brother is that without their consent, nothing happens. ER hold if you're lucky. Most suicides are untreated mental health conditions. When the working class citizen can't take a single day off to get the therapy they need, why would they be expected to get better at all? That's why we all self medicate in one form or another; and that's never going to help. Mental healthcare and healthcare in general is fully needed and totally unaccessable here in the US.

[Faith No More]

I would like to see the cost of this "saved many"? I wonder how many are walking around while others are still paying for their salvation.

I'm walking around, but whether or not I've been "saved" seems undetermined. You can't cure depression, just learn to manage it. It's always with you, and it gets tiresome to fight.

So, in a sense, we'll always be paying for it.

[archangle]

I would like to see the cost of this "saved many"? I wonder how many are walking around while others are still paying for their salvation.

I'm walking around, but whether or not I've been "saved" seems undetermined. You can't cure depression, just learn to manage it. It's always with you, and it gets tiresome to fight.

So, in a sense, we'll always be paying for it.

I meant money wise. Those that can't hold a job. for whatever reason. And safety wise with real sick people running around ready to shoot us.

not the ones that can work and don't tax there their family and friends past what is considered resonable.

by the way faith no more. If the web of space is true, and they think it is. by NASA experiments. I will think of you and your struggles in a positive light. good luck.

[Heywood]

But don't people have the right to what they want with their own bodies even if it is a tragic mistake?

Well, there is also the fact that most people who consider suicide do not fully assess the situation fully and well. Most suicide attempts are generally not-very well thought out. That's why we call them a tragedy.

In such cases, people need to be restrained for their own good.

But isn't restraining a person "for their own good" a violation of their privacy?

[MJ the Skeptical]

To answer the question, no suicide is not wrong, especially if you are terminally ill, there is no good argument for keeping terminal people alive to suffer more. However, my philosophy on suicide is that, in a way, we all commit suicide. Whether you outright end your life or you live a healthy life and die old, that's still choosing your own death to an extent. Whether it's old age, organ failure etc. You could even look at smoking cigarettes as a form of suicide, or eating unhealthy food constantly, or taking many prescription pills every day. I would go a step even further and say I would not blame any adult for taking their own life even if they just didn't want to live anymore, even though ideally I want everyone to live healthily for hundreds+ of years.

[Zidneya]

Let me tell you a conversation that I had one day.
Teacher: Suicide is the most courageous act of a coward(It's a common phrases people in Latin america say about suicide although I dunno if people from another countries say it as well).
Me: Hahahaha yeah right tat's what any suicide needs, more prejudices.
Teacher: Well since you're so smart tell me what you think is, is it brave or cowardly.
Me: I think the idea of ​​cataloging human suffering and confusion as cowardice or courage is stupid.
Teacher: Get out of my class.

I learned a lesson about suicide that day
Laugh at your teacher in front of the class it's academic suicide.

[FilthyMeat]

I don't see the possibility for suicide to be immoral, that individual has the right to take their own life. It brings a potential solution for a person that doesn't want to be alive.
It would be wrong to prevent this person from this action, granted it's tragic but ultimately it's their decision.

[Mystical]

Well, there is also the fact that most people who consider suicide do not fully assess the situation fully and well. Most suicide attempts are generally not-very well thought out. That's why we call them a tragedy.

In such cases, people need to be restrained for their own good.

But isn't restraining a person "for their own good" a violation of their privacy?

Sure is. But looking back at the reasons I've ever been suicidal: it very well can be the best thing to do. You can't restrain someone forever, but you can give them enough chance to really be sure about what they want and why. Which, more often than not, does save lives.

[Raeven]

But isn't restraining a person "for their own good" a violation of their privacy?

From a legal standpoint, no. Your right to privacy is trumped by the law when you exhibit signs that you may pose a danger to yourself or others.

This is also the basis for courts to impose involuntary feeding orders.