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Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
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RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
(May 27, 2014 at 11:37 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Yeah, so has been cleft lips. Homosexuality serves no practical purpose to anyone, unlike heterosexuality, which is actually a productive enterprise.

Neither do childless families, according to your restrictive definition of "productive." You gonna be giving them shit too?

Quote:It is an abnormality, a defect.
It's nature gone wrong, man.

So, are you the kind of guy who taunts the disabled in the streets? After all, they've got abnormalities too. Or do you just single out the gays because of pre-formed ideological biases, and then retrofit your reasoning to avoid having to just come out and say "I just don't like the gays."?

Quote:You were not talking about families in your post. So this was not directed to that particular question. I merely explained that the male and female sexual organs have a practical purpose, that is to bring forth children.

And you'd be wrong there, too: the purpose of the egg and sperm is to bring forth children, the purpose of genitalia is to enable sex. That's why sterile people can still have sex; the organ's function is not what you're characterizing it as. Incidentally, the "purpose" of sex also isn't exclusively children, as we have an evolved pleasure response that also puts it squarely into the "for fun" category.

Quote:Yes, that's another thing. Things are so complicated these days.
After starting a family, they break up and pursue the path of sodomy.
How do you expect parenting from a person that has abandoned his family on his selfish quest?
He not only dishonored himself, but dishonored his former family aswell.

What's this? An overly simplified strawman version of what actually happens that doesn't take into account all the facts in its desperate need to preserve the nuclear family at all costs? Madness! Confused Fall

Quote:Can you find me any records of gay adoptions before 2000 anywhere?
Really, like two gay dudes going to the adoption centre and telling that they want to adopt a child, and being granted permission to do so.

Even if nobody could, that doesn't automatically make your point correct, that's an argument from ignorance.

Quote:Oh I agree. If they want to have families, they should do it the way that everyone does. Go and marry a woman, have children.

Exactly the same argument could be made for single straight people wanting to adopt. Hell, to anyone wanting to adopt. Dodgy

Quote:And yes, that is another thing. Go on to explain that to a child.

Another stupid argument, as we don't assess someone's appropriateness as a child carer based on how hard their personal experiences are to explain to children. Explaining the death of a parent to a child would be very difficult, and yet you're not here saying widows shouldn't be allowed to keep their kids.

You know, you started off with all these arguments about nature and normalcy and all that, but you quickly lapse into these other arguments about families being dishonored and how hard it'd be to explain this to kids, which rather tip your hand. Thinking

Quote:Multiple husbands Smile How they manage not to kill eachother off, I simply cannot comprehend. Men are created to be competetive and women are created to be selective. Its simply unnatural to have such relations. But these false ideas about free love and other hippy-counter culture crap has really twisted the ways of many.

"I can't imagine how it could work/I wouldn't like it, therefore it's immoral and shouldn't be done."

Grow up, Mehmet. Not everything is about you and what you want.
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RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
Quote:Come on out the closet, mehmet. It's so beyond obvious you're in there and you shouldn't be ashamed of what you really are.
Wow, is that all you have to say?
Quote:Mehm, brosef....has it occurred to you that your suspicions about the motives of "teh gayz" apply equally as well to heterosexual couples?
In truth, I think the gays are actually nothing more than pawns.
I have no suspicions, I only state what I see.
And what I see is this: A bastardization of the concept of family values, parentage, an attack against the sanctimony of motherhood and fatherhood, and the total corruption of society through the destruction of these values.
I already stated that these people have no real stakes in society, they are a society amongst themselves, a subculture, that had to lay extremely low throughout most of history, now that they are high-profile, and openly lay claims on things that they never partook in history.
I'm not saying this, history does. If you can show me a good example where the term "family" was understood in a way to encompass all kinds of strange combinations, I'd say, yeah you might have a point.
Quote: Sure, and facts state that normal families are loving ones.
The argument of love is not going to work. We're talking about a concept. To define normality, you need to define a concept. The concept of a "loving family" is really too specific to actually define anything. Every family is "loving" in their own way.
Quote:Is an abusive family a normal thing?
Would you prefer a child to be raised by someone who constantly beats it, or someone who loves it?
Hey, look. I have already stated that one wrong does not justify another. Just because I don't want my child to be raised by someone who doesn't abuse him/her does not mean that I want them to be raised by a bunch of homosexuals.
Comprende?
You're making it sound as though as there are like only two choices, either your child is adopted by the "loving gay families" who never ever abuse children or is adopted by those evil straights, who will beat them up and rape them.
Quote: Yes, I agree.... but we are dealing with adoptions. Not with standard biological parents... it is possible that homosexual people become parents, and it has indeed happened, but it's not "natural" for a homosexual couple to become pregnant and give birth to a child.
Its as you have said. Its an impossibility for them to procreate with eachother.
Quote:Concerning adoptions, however, I see no problem in leaping over that detail, if we can provide a loving family for a child instead of an abusive one, or an overcrouded one which are the typical foster homes... then why not?
Well, as I said before. their type of family has no place in contemporary society.
Quote: That is the optimum, I agree.
However, a child in need of adoptive parents is not exactly near that optimum. Isn't it better to give them a loving family, instead of none?
Well, its better to give them to an optimum family, then. Like, kids were open to adoptions before, and given only to normal, married couples.

What changed?
I tell you what. A demand was made by or on the behalf of the gays that they should be able to be "parents" and adopt children. It had no other reason, it wasn't done for the kids, that much I'm pretty sure of.
Quote: The other is far from wrong.
Giving children to gays for them to raise it is wrong.
Why not give them to normal people? You yourself have admitted that a family with both a father and mother figure is the best.
Quote:Yes they do have difficulties.... I am such a child of a single parent... I should know, huh?
Still, it seems it was better for me to be the child of a single parent than to have been the cause for their continued co-living, as they would have just been at each other's throats all the time.
I shudder to think of what I would have become, if I had remained in such a hateful environment.
Well, you can't know that. Besides, I think it is sad that you lacked the presence of the other parent figure, I don't know with whom you stayed, your mother or father. It would have been a lot better if you had both in your life when you were growing up.
Children grow up even without parents, friend, so no one really needs gays to fulfill a gap that doesn't exist. We should focus on providing children with a home that provide both a father and a mother. Not two of the same kind.
Quote: What about those cases you mentioned? Those cases where the there is no possible reconciliation?
In that case there is not much to do. Its regrettable that it comes to such cases, but it does. But outside of those cases, children are the glue that hold a family together.

Quote: .

It worked for me... it works for a lot of people... more or less.
I suppose I'd have become an even better person if I had been a part of a full loving caring family, but I wasn't... and many out there aren't. That's reality. It should be avoided, yes, but sometimes it just can't be.
As I said, children grow up even without parents. It "works out". But you yourself have said, you probably wished that you had both a father and a mother. You could have gone to vacation in summers, or had a family dinner once a month downtown. But instead, fate decreed that you were to endure the loss of one of your parents. I don't know whether you kept in touch or whatever, but I'm fairly certain that he or she wasn't able to be in your life as much as he or she was before.
If my mother and father had seperated, I'd not know what to do. I'd be at a loss, even now. But eventually, death will seperate them and I will eventually have to face the death of my other living parent aswell, may they have long lives.
Quote:That stigma is brought upon by people like you. It exists because gay adoptive parents is a rare event. We are just beginning this process.
Well it is a rare event, because it is not supposed to be an event anyway. This why there is a stigma, its just nature for normal people to distance themselvs from such things.
And frankly, I think you do understand that you are sacrificing perhaps many many generations until the social "recognition" such families is complete, yes?
As I said, it never was about the children anyways. They are merely expendable in this mad quest for gay-acceptance.

Quote:A few years ago, the same could be said of mixed race marriage....
A few years ago? Like how long?
Besides, mixed-race marriage was never a rare phenomenon. It was already an existing and a quite widespread phenomenon, it existed for millenia. It was an accepted event, even practiced by royalty. Its just that it was frowned upon in some societies than others.

Quote:Today, however, that stigma has subsided. The one we're addressing can subside too, if society is willing.
Well, the stigma has faded you say? I think that there never was a stigma to begin with. Historically, mixed-race marriages were rather common in many places. A good example is Mexico, a nation of mestizos.
Quote:And I see a lot of people willing to move society to that level... I also see some who think like you do... let's try to move past preconceptions, shall we?
Why? I mean what was wrong with the past preconceptions?
What did they lack? Did they not work well?
Why do you have to screw everything to a degree that its unrecognizable? I want the traditional family structure of a father, mother and children to persevere, mainly because it works. It has been tried and tested for millenia, it has reached the current day thus.

I simply do not understand the mentality of damning the past, while not really having much of a regard for the future either.
Human society has been founded on male-female interactions. It was not built to accomodate sexual deviancy, nor address every demand made by such indviduals and groups.
Quote:Let's give it a try and see the outcome... in my previous post, I said there are no scientific studies as to the outcome, but there are some cases which can be analyzed...
As I said before, it perhaps was never about children. Its merely an attempt of social-engineering?
How many generations do you need to implement the idea?
Two? Three? Four?

In my opinion, I think this is a part on the leftist scene to actually normalize homosexual relationships. The idea needs legitimacy, so they lobby for rights such as marriage, and child raising.
However you cannot simply change a millenia old concept overnight. So how many generations do you need to actually reshape the family institution in your own image?
I'd say no less than four. Four generations that are sacrificed on the altar of the counter-culture movement.
Quote: The door swings both ways...
Humanity is complex, yes that can happen, but would it be the norm?
Well, as I said, even children that are adopted by normal parents can come to hate their adoptive parents, and be disobedient to them on the accord that they're not his/her "real parents". Its something that does happen. But for gay parents? Let me tell you my friend, I think that for the sake of everyone, its best that no hearts be broken, and no lives ruined. Leave parenting to those that have been involved in it for millenia. Normal couples, a family that has both a father and a mother.
You simply don't understand that not everything in this world is open to manipulation. The familial institution has been for most part of history, rigid. Why do you feel the need to bend and twist it to fit your description?

Quote:Like I said earlier, nowadays, gays still strive to become accepted. They strive for their sexual orientation to be acknowledged as something natural over which they have no conscious control.
Alright, but society does not have to reshape itself to accomodate the sexual needs and practices of people.i
They can be whatever they want. But in my opinion, they should conform to the standards of normal society when they want to be part of that society.
Quote:Given this awareness, would it make sense for them to lead a child to become gay against the child's natural orientation?
Well, I can't know that. As I said, they're practically a society within society. They have their own subculture, and now, their own "consciousness" as a minority. So, why do you think would they not try to pass this on to a child that they had adopted?

And as I said, children are easily manipulated. A kid that was raised by such people will eventually go to school, accepting gay relationships to be the "norm", and act accordingly. They will most certainly not fit in.
As I said, I wonder how these people are going to explain their children how babies are made, and why they cannot have babies of their own.
The child will grow up in confusion in relation to contemporary society.
I think it is unethical on many levels to actually force a child to be riddled with questions about human sexuality from such an early age.
Quote:Once more, sure it can happen, so it will most certainly happen... but will it be the norm?
Like for gays? Hell if I know. But I am not really determined to find out at the expense of children.

Quote:Like standard parents don't?... Tongue
It's because of gays that the stork myth was invented, huh?
Well, they're going to have to be more explanatory than that I believe. Its going to be a lot more confusing for children that are under the custody of gays.
Quote: "forced"? Don't you think you're trying to hard to make a negative case?
Take a step back, deep breath... and think.
It's not a negative case. Its simple truth. Or they can actually employ a surrogate mother, if they have the money. In that case, they have a lot, lot more explanation to do.
"We paid some money to a poor woman in india to be the vessel for your birth. You'll never know your mother, but hey, I'm your biological father, and this is some guy who happens to do me. But we love you!"

It is an affront to every human principle that is in existence.
Quote:Well, then, you're wrong.
As far as I'm aware, orphanages have been extinguished, replaced by foster homes, where one family takes in a few kids so they live until "the system" finds an adoptive family for them. It's a place where kids come and go, based on the willingness of a few families to take care of those kids.
Well, we still have them in Turkey. People already have their own kids to deal with, who's gonna look after a kid they don't know?
Don't know about America though, I first learned of this system when I watched Terminator 2.

Quote:It's not a caring loving dedicated family, but it's better than the classical orphanages...
Well, it eventually serves the same purpose.
I yearly visit orphanages as part of our organisational events, their conditions are not horrible, but having no parental figures have made the kids grow up a lot earlier. Many of them were already smokers.
Quote:Yeah... like that happens... -.-'
Who is to say that it won't happen?
The child has grown up to recognize intimate human relationships as being between people of the same sex.
Of course in time they'll develop and understand the reality behind it, but kids usually emulate what they have seen from their caretakers.
Quote:Adoptive parents, mehmet.

BTW, I hinted at some cases where kids have been raised by a homosexual couple. Here, educate yourself:
Well, some of the videos state what I have stated before. Kids are at a social disadvantage with such parents.

Quote:http://m.nydailynews.com/life-style/heal...-1.1365963
I knew that someone would eventually come up and claim this. Yeah, they have not included children from normal families into their research, so how they managed to make a comparsion is actually beyond me.
Quote:Mehmet,
Do you ever stop and consider that there are more homosexuals in the world than there are Turks? Can't wait to hear why you think god makes it thus.

You keep droning on and on about reproduction. Where do you think homosexuals come from?
No, I'm not concerned about homosexuals as much as I'm concerned about the Chinese. Or unruly ethnic minorities. Here, sexual minorities lead humble lives, they keep a low profile. No one bothers them, they don't bother no one.
We're talking about concepts here, man. Else I'm sure that such things could never happen in any part of Turan. We are a people that value the familial institution. Our family values are deeply rooted in our past.
On where the homos come from, they come from normal families. So why do they feel the need to attack the normal family?
Gosh.

Quote:Neither do childless families, according to your restrictive definition of "productive." You gonna be giving them shit too?
There is no such thing as a childless family. You're making such things up.
A family is not a family unless there are children involved.
A family exists explicitely to provide a place for the next generation to grow up.
IF there is no child, there is no familiy.

This is why sterile people actually go and adopt children. To have a family.
Quote:So, are you the kind of guy who taunts the disabled in the streets? After all, they've got abnormalities too. Or do you just single out the gays because of pre-formed ideological biases, and then retrofit your reasoning to avoid having to just come out and say "I just don't like the gays."?
Well, I don't really taunt gays on the streets either. Hell, its actually dangerous to do that. Transvestites can pull a knife at you you know(and if I pull one back, someone is gonna die). I had a friend who was knifed and mugged by a bunch of them, and they killed a taxi driver last year. Well, I digresss.
I guess you admit as much as me that gays are not normal.
Quote:And you'd be wrong there, too: the purpose of the egg and sperm is to bring forth children, the purpose of genitalia is to enable sex.
To put the sperm where the egg is, you need sex. Of course, modern methods do allow us to use other instruments to put the sperm where the eggs are, which is the vagina, the incubation chamber.
Still, its pretty much the same concept.
Quote:That's why sterile people can still have sex; the organ's function is not what you're characterizing it as.
That function is there as to promote reproduction.
Quote:Incidentally, the "purpose" of sex also isn't exclusively children, as we have an evolved pleasure response that also puts it squarely into the "for fun" category.
Did I claim such a thing? I merely pointed out that its primary means of existence is reproduction.
Sterile people have nothing to do with it. They were evolved in the womb to be either a male or a female, the two components that when combined, create a child, but an unfortunate circumstance has cost them their ability to create life.

Quote:What's this? An overly simplified strawman version of what actually happens that doesn't take into account all the facts in its desperate need to preserve the nuclear family at all costs? Madness!
What facts? He abandoned his family to start a completely new life based on getting it on with other men. What other deep meaning is behind this?

Quote:Even if nobody could, that doesn't automatically make your point correct, that's an argument from ignorance.
No, it does, actually. It shows that gays never were a part of the familial structure as I have stated before.
Quote:Exactly the same argument could be made for single straight people wanting to adopt. Hell, to anyone wanting to adopt.
Single people want to adopt children? I think that there are certain criteria that people consider when they give children to people that want to adopt them. "Being single" probably isn't in it.
Quote:Another stupid argument, as we don't assess someone's appropriateness as a child carer based on how hard their personal experiences are to explain to children. Explaining the death of a parent to a child would be very difficult, and yet you're not here saying widows shouldn't be allowed to keep their kids.
You base your arguments on irrelevant examples. They are in no way comparable, so I wonder how you managed to make a corrolation between the death of a parent, and the existence of two parents of the same ilk. To be honest, the loss of a parent is a loss, its a tragedy that forces the child to grow up without a mother or a father. On the other hand, we have gay adoption, which does the exact same thing, but this time, its called progress and tolerance.
Children probably understand death a lot better than how they came to be under the custody of two fathers when they learn that you need both a father and mother to actually come into the world, and that everyone else around them have a father and a mother, while they have two of either.
Though I must admit, I've been hearing other strange shit, that lesbian threesome couples wanting to adopt and shit. Things are getting strange-r with every passing year.

Quote:You know, you started off with all these arguments about nature and normalcy and all that, but you quickly lapse into these other arguments about families being dishonored and how hard it'd be to explain this to kids, which rather tip your hand. Thinking
Well, it is dishonorable from my point of view to abandon your responsbilities in pursuit of your carnal desires.

You also bring the same dishonor upon your family, the shame of your father falls upon you aswell.
Quote:"I can't imagine how it could work/I wouldn't like it, therefore it's immoral and shouldn't be done."

Grow up, Mehmet. Not everything is about you and what you want.
Sorry for clinging to outdated and fascistic concepts of manhood and relations between men and women. The only way I can think of is that these guys have some sexual kink about having their woman getting it on with some other people. Such things never happened in the past, but with the degenerate porn industry, people start to bring those kind of hardcore sick fantasies into the real world.

About the issue, if you think that my arguments do not hold any credibility,
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RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
Mehmet, man... you say you visit orphanages and you see the conditions those kids have to grow up in...
You would rather have a kid grow up like that, over growing up with two adoptive fathers or mothers? You are wishing those kids a worse fate than what I wish upon them.... you said it yourself, many are early smokers.... who knows what else are they doing early?....

The point is, there are many more kids in need of an adoptive family than adoptive parents searching for kids. That is why the subject of gays adopting comes about... not just gays, but even single people who want to be parents... should they be allowed to adopt, if they are willing and able? Should we leave them "in the system", or entrust them to people who'll very likely give them a proper home where they can grow up and become adults?

I say "give them a family".
Adopted kids always carry a stigma. Kids adopted by gays will carry a different stigma, but it will pass... as you probably saw in the videos I put on my last post... they do turn out as normal members of society.... those early smokers you mentioned, on the other hand, I have many doubts.
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RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
(May 28, 2014 at 9:03 am)pocaracas Wrote: Mehmet, man... you say you visit orphanages and you see the conditions those kids have to grow up in...
You would rather have a kid grow up like that, over growing up with two adoptive fathers or mothers? You are wishing those kids a worse fate than what I wish upon them.... you said it yourself, many are early smokers.... who knows what else are they doing early?....

The point is, there are many more kids in need of an adoptive family than adoptive parents searching for kids. That is why the subject of gays adopting comes about... not just gays, but even single people who want to be parents... should they be allowed to adopt, if they are willing and able? Should we leave them "in the system", or entrust them to people who'll very likely give them a proper home where they can grow up and become adults?

I say "give them a family".
Adopted kids always carry a stigma. Kids adopted by gays will carry a different stigma, but it will pass... as you probably saw in the videos I put on my last post... they do turn out as normal members of society.... those early smokers you mentioned, on the other hand, I have many doubts.

I'd rather have them in an orphanage, than in the hands of gays.

Even if there are more kids that are in need of an adoptive family, this does not mean that you have to lower the standards so that they give out the kids practically to anyone. If you wish to solve the problem, give them all to gypsies. You can be sure that the gypsies will look after them, even if they will turn them into thieves and beggars, but hey, at least they'll be under the legal custody of someone, right?

Adoptions should be reserved for people that are deserving of these kids.
People who fit the description of normal parents.

You say it will pass, no it won't. What you're practically doing is sacrificing the kids to homosexual-agenda.
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Giving them out to gypsies or keeping them in "the system" doesn't seem all that different, to me.
Why not just give them to the military, while we're at it?

My idea is that, if you can provide something better than "the system", then you should do that.
Your view is that only the optimum will do... and that just keeps kids in "the system" and would-be parents childless.
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RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
(May 28, 2014 at 9:29 am)pocaracas Wrote: Giving them out to gypsies or keeping them in "the system" doesn't seem all that different, to me.
Why not just give them to the military, while we're at it?

My idea is that, if you can provide something better than "the system", then you should do that.
Your view is that only the optimum will do... and that just keeps kids in "the system" and would-be parents childless.

Wow, never thought of that. A special ops team, trained to be ruthless killers, not bound by social ties such as family...Their lot to serve their superiors and their nation. The elite of the elite...I heard that before. The Ghulam and Janissaries!
They didn't work out too well.
So no, I think the kids are better off in families that fit the description of the norm, where they will be raised with expectations of grandchildren and marriage. This is important for the propagation of society, my friend. They will not be raised in a subculture of a sub-society, but will be full fledged members of contemporary society that are expected for propagate the family institution. This is what I'm saying.
On the other hand, giving them off to gays will do the exact reverse. It creates confusion, and if you ask me, bears no alturistic connections, and is put forth by the same people that actually attack the concept of family and family values, unless it is practiced by gays.
It is not something that I can ever endorse.

What should be done is to promote true answers to the question of orphans. Why do orphans exist?
A family tragedy. Both of the parents dead? The child should be given to the grandparents, or uncles and aunts. This is how its done here. Here, if both parents would suddenly die, the kids are not without relatives to help them. The family in a broader sense, takes care of its kin.

Another one would be to tackle the problem of children born out of wedlock. Many mothers who are afraid of their dirty secret coming out usually give off their children to orphanages or just leave them in a place to be found by other people.
Why not teach the people to have children in a safe and advantageous(both for mother and child) environment, the marital institution?
But no, today's society praises promiscuity above all else, while doing nothing to instill responsibility. This is why we have so many single-moms at the age of 18.
One must attack the root causes, by promoting family values and sexual morality.
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RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
Agreed. We should be encouraging people in stable..committed relationships to have children. For example...a happy homosexual couple with ten years at the lash who feel that the next step for the two of them is to raise a child together...amiright......? Clap

Agreed. We should be encouraging people in stable..committed relationships to have children. For example...a happy homosexual couple with ten years at the lash who feel that the next step for the two of them is to raise a child together...amiright......? Clap
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(May 28, 2014 at 10:20 am)Rhythm Wrote: Agreed. We should be encouraging people in stable..committed relationships to have children. For example...a happy homosexual couple with ten years at the lash who feel that the next step for the two of them is to raise a child together...amiright......? Clap

As you see, this never was about children at all. Its all about homosexuals taking their relationship to the "next step". By adopting a child, they are more like the heterosexuals they emulate in their current fight for acceptance.
How they will raise this child, or how this child is going to go through life is not really much of a concern to them. They just want a pet that they can feed, and play with, that they can showcase to their friends in the gay community.
Selfishness.

If there were no children for adoption, these people would not be able to have any, other than say, through questionable methods like paid surrogacy, which is right now, fought by the countries that see that homosexuals from richer countries are exploiting the women of their country just so they can "have children".
This is all a big pile of lies, piled upon other lies.
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RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
(May 28, 2014 at 7:53 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
Quote:Come on out the closet, mehmet. It's so beyond obvious you're in there and you shouldn't be ashamed of what you really are.
Wow, is that all you have to say?

All you have to say is "ew, gays are icky", which you justify by citing stereotypes of gay people so hilariously outdated that

a: you obviously have never met a single gay person in your life, or
b: you can only be using them because you're afraid of your secret obsession with crotch sausage.

Either way, you're very annoyingly verbose for someone with so little of valid substance to actually say about the subject.
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RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
(May 28, 2014 at 10:48 am)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:
(May 28, 2014 at 7:53 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Wow, is that all you have to say?

All you have to say is "ew, gays are icky", which you justify by citing stereotypes of gay people so hilariously outdated that

a: you obviously have never met a single gay person in your life, or
b: you can only be using them because you're afraid of your secret obsession with crotch sausage.

Either way, you're very annoyingly verbose for someone with so little of valid substance to actually say about the subject.

No, is that all you have to say?
I'm not citing any stereotypes. These stereotypes are enforced by the gays themselves. Just look at their hilarious pride parades, their filthy subculture centered around kinks of every kind. These people are the ones you present to me as potential "parents".
This is a new, fairly immoral tactic when it comes to debate. Simply frame the opposition of being gay when they oppose shit like gays adopting children.
Oh, if you don't agree, you're just a fag in denial.
Oh come on. You can do better.
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