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Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
#71
RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
Speaking nicely with you people obviously does not work. Of course, why did I assume that you people would uphold values of decency and debate ethics?
Maybe you should be treated the way you people are, those who cannot maintain a position without attacking the speaker of the opposite position, and not the position itself.
I am not offended by your words, though, if you think you can actually get me down by calling me names a number of times, you're wrong.
I was hoping that we'd not exchange insults, but I'm tempted to do so. I do not wish to break my code of conduct. So I leave this debate, but not in shame, thankfully.
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#72
RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
I tried...
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#73
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(May 28, 2014 at 3:25 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Speaking nicely with you people obviously does not work. Of course, why did I assume that you people would uphold values of decency and debate ethics?
Maybe you should be treated the way you people are, those who cannot maintain a position without attacking the speaker of the opposite position, and not the position itself.

I'm sorry, are you talking about the entire group of people you've marginalized and spoken out against as "unnatural," and now asking for values and decency after making statements like:

(May 28, 2014 at 11:42 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, it really matters little whatever stereotypes I have of them, I'm not here to actually discuss their antics, I'm here to discuss the fate of the children.
They can go and pass on AIDS to eachother in meth parties or whatever.

(May 28, 2014 at 3:25 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I am not offended by your words, though, if you think you can actually get me down by calling me names a number of times, you're wrong.
I was hoping that we'd not exchange insults, but I'm tempted to do so. I do not wish to break my code of conduct. So I leave this debate, but not in shame, thankfully.

Insults were exchanged when you started with the insultingly obscene caricatures of homosexuals as a group, including those who post on the forum.
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#74
RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
Thanks, Rampant.A.I..
kılıç_mehmet, I did not expect that. I thought that you'd jump at the opportunity of belittling a bisexual like you belittle homosexuals. I can honestly say I am disappointed. Or maybe it was the study that shows that homophobes (you) are actually aroused by homosexual acts. I can't ascertain specifically why you decided to "leave this debate" (with your head held high, but still utterly defeated, like a pigeon who just played chess with a human - you guys know this one), but I CAN ascertain that most, perhaps all, the reasons for it don't bode well for your arguments (if they can even be called that).
The truth is absolute. Life forms are specks of specks (...) of specks of dust in the universe.
Why settle for normal, when you can be so much more? Why settle for something, when you can have everything?

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#75
RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
(May 28, 2014 at 3:38 pm)One Above All Wrote: Thanks, Rampant.A.I..
kılıç_mehmet, I did not expect that. I thought that you'd jump at the opportunity of belittling a bisexual like you belittle homosexuals. I can honestly say I am disappointed. Or maybe it was the study that shows that homophobes (you) are actually aroused by homosexual acts. I can't ascertain specifically why you decided to "leave this debate" (with your head held high, but still utterly defeated, like a pigeon who just played chess with a human - you guys know this one), but I CAN ascertain that most, perhaps all, the reasons for it don't bode well for your arguments (if they can even be called that).

Truly, I didn't even look at the study.
I merely do not wish to continue this any further if its going to get personal. I might do something that would violate my own creed.
For I know that even how much I'm going to speak, I'm already at a huge disadvantage here. I hold my words against a whole army of liberal thugs, and no, I do not go defeated. You merely proclaimed yourselves victors after doing what you do best. Assaulting my person, and then proclaiming victory when I refuse to play your game.
For I admit, I'm not someone that is good at using despicable tactics such as this.
You continue your own game.
There are no other reasons for it, as much as you may wish it.
If I were to spit in your faces, you'd merely raise your head and look for clouds, so insulting you people isn't really something I can do. Not that I would, of course.

Rampart A.I.
I speak what I see. And what I see is that you're defending degeneracy. I throw my words on the ground. Those who take it take it. Those who leave it leave it.
I do not need to explain myself any further.
For the whole time you tried to present vice as virtue to my face, knowing that you people are coveting the truth, I have spoken what I know is true.
These people have a rotten subculture, these are not caricatures, these are the realities of these people that you overlook, the realities that you hide from others, as part of your campaign.
I'm really through with this. You believe what you want to believe. As I said, the time is nigh, and when the march begins, all will be trampled underfoot, and purified.
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#76
RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
Of course it's going to get personal. These are forum members and their close friends and family members that you're insulting. You made it personal.
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#77
RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
kılıç_mehmet, I count four posts (not including this one) I made in this thread, none of which (IMO) were insulting, and half of which weren't even directed at you. So, what's your reason for not interacting with ME, specifically?

I'd like to note that YOU are the one who started insulting other people (specifically homosexuals - yes, homosexuals are people too). YOU are the one who started tossing thoroughly debunked stereotypes. YOU are the one who declared them unfit as parents. YOU are the one who said that they viewed kids as pets. YOU are the one who declared everyone who disagreed with you (id est: everyone in this thread) an "army of liberal thugs", although "liberal" is no more an insult than, say "conservative". You did, however, mean it as an insult, so...
The truth is absolute. Life forms are specks of specks (...) of specks of dust in the universe.
Why settle for normal, when you can be so much more? Why settle for something, when you can have everything?

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#78
Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
(May 28, 2014 at 4:18 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(May 28, 2014 at 3:38 pm)One Above All Wrote: Thanks, Rampant.A.I..
kılıç_mehmet, I did not expect that. I thought that you'd jump at the opportunity of belittling a bisexual like you belittle homosexuals. I can honestly say I am disappointed. Or maybe it was the study that shows that homophobes (you) are actually aroused by homosexual acts. I can't ascertain specifically why you decided to "leave this debate" (with your head held high, but still utterly defeated, like a pigeon who just played chess with a human - you guys know this one), but I CAN ascertain that most, perhaps all, the reasons for it don't bode well for your arguments (if they can even be called that).

Truly, I didn't even look at the study.
I merely do not wish to continue this any further if its going to get personal. I might do something that would violate my own creed.
For I know that even how much I'm going to speak, I'm already at a huge disadvantage here. I hold my words against a whole army of liberal thugs, and no, I do not go defeated. You merely proclaimed yourselves victors after doing what you do best. Assaulting my person, and then proclaiming victory when I refuse to play your game.
For I admit, I'm not someone that is good at using despicable tactics such as this.
You continue your own game.
There are no other reasons for it, as much as you may wish it.
If I were to spit in your faces, you'd merely raise your head and look for clouds, so insulting you people isn't really something I can do. Not that I would, of course.

Rampart A.I.
I speak what I see. And what I see is that you're defending degeneracy. I throw my words on the ground. Those who take it take it. Those who leave it leave it.
I do not need to explain myself any further.
For the whole time you tried to present vice as virtue to my face, knowing that you people are coveting the truth, I have spoken what I know is true.
These people have a rotten subculture, these are not caricatures, these are the realities of these people that you overlook, the realities that you hide from others, as part of your campaign.
I'm really through with this. You believe what you want to believe. As I said, the time is nigh, and when the march begins, all will be trampled underfoot, and purified.

Are you talking to yourself, or did you just declare a jihad on gay people?

Can you pick a side of the mouth to talk out of? Your post is self contradictory.

And what the fuck does "part of my campaign" mean? The only one campaigning against human rights here is you.

Here's a clear case of a "traditional family" being too "degenerate" to raise their own children, yet the people adopting them into a loving home are in the wrong?

Listen, citing a TV show episode as your source of information for all homosexuals, from a fictional character is downright delusional.
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#79
RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
(May 28, 2014 at 4:35 pm)One Above All Wrote: kılıç_mehmet, I count four posts (not including this one) I made in this thread, none of which (IMO) were insulting, and half of which weren't even directed at you. So, what's your reason for not interacting with ME, specifically?

I'd like to note that YOU are the one who started insulting other people (specifically homosexuals - yes, homosexuals are people too). YOU are the one who started tossing thoroughly debunked stereotypes. YOU are the one who declared them unfit as parents. YOU are the one who said that they viewed kids as pets. YOU are the one who declared everyone who disagreed with you (id est: everyone in this thread) an "army of liberal thugs", although "liberal" is no more an insult than, say "conservative". You did, however, mean it as an insult, so...
And they're not an army of liberal thugs? To be honest pal, I've been around this forum for a long time, a lot longer than you to know the whole structure. In every large scale debate, I've been a one man side, replying to multiple posters at a time, taking the heat, trying to keep my cool at the same time. And I still keep my cool.
I use the term liberal to denote who they are. Did any of them come to deny the term? No.
Yet I stand by my main point. I firmly believe in the family institution. And I know that neo-liberalism and leftist counter-culture movements do not care the slightest about the institution of family. Their ideology has been constructed by the notorious Frankfurt School of thought that actively seeks to undermine these institutions.
There is not a shred of defamation in my words. I have no need for defamation.

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#80
RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
(May 28, 2014 at 4:18 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:





I don't mean to interrupt, but I was slightly shocked -slightly- to find that a gay rights vs religious incompetence conversation has degenerated so quickly at the young age of page4, into this:

kilic Wrote:You believe what you want to believe. As I said, the time is nigh, and when the march begins, all will be trampled underfoot, and purified.


I feel like you ascribe far more evil to our positions than they are. What is it about an entire populace of humans having a rotten subculture that surprises you? Surely you don't think that I as a good person, would be okay with anything illegal regarding human rights. Subcultures are always going to be there--you know why? because we're humans.

Instead of identifying the heart of the problem like a sane person would and recognizing that not all of a group are responsible for the few deviants, you see my support of nondeviants as being deviant as well! To you the world is just chalk full of deviants, I would gather. -Deviants, btw, aren't the ones jumping through huge religious and political hoops just to show they are competent to parent.

We can't we both be against humanitarianism. Either I am or you are, and I just demonstrated that you are misplacing blame and rationale.

What is it, exactly, that you disagree with. Here?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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