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RE: The "soul" stuff
June 4, 2014 at 8:50 pm
(June 4, 2014 at 1:20 pm)Irrational Wrote: (June 2, 2014 at 5:04 pm)Lek Wrote: Adam and Eve were created with ability to know good and evil, but they didn't learn about it until they ate from that tree.
So, according to your wording, they had the knowledge from creation. But they became aware of it later.
Not that it makes sense or anything to me, but there you go.
Read the part of my sentence that you highlighted. They were created with the ability to know good and evil. That's why they came to know good and evil upon eating the fruit of the tree.
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RE: The "soul" stuff
June 4, 2014 at 9:06 pm
(June 4, 2014 at 8:50 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 4, 2014 at 1:20 pm)Irrational Wrote: So, according to your wording, they had the knowledge from creation. But they became aware of it later.
Not that it makes sense or anything to me, but there you go.
Read the part of my sentence that you highlighted. They were created with the ability to know good and evil. That's why they came to know good and evil upon eating the fruit of the tree.
Either way, not based on the Bible. According to Genesis, they obtained knowledge of good and evil after partaking of the fruit. But nothing is said about the ability to know being endowed on them upon their creation.
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RE: The "soul" stuff
June 4, 2014 at 9:28 pm
(June 4, 2014 at 9:06 pm)Irrational Wrote: (June 4, 2014 at 8:50 pm)Lek Wrote: Read the part of my sentence that you highlighted. They were created with the ability to know good and evil. That's why they came to know good and evil upon eating the fruit of the tree.
Either way, not based on the Bible. According to Genesis, they obtained knowledge of good and evil after partaking of the fruit. But nothing is said about the ability to know being endowed on them upon their creation.
Okay. I'll give that much to you.
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RE: The "soul" stuff
June 4, 2014 at 10:20 pm
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(June 3, 2014 at 9:25 pm)Lek Wrote: This was right after they are from the tree:
Genesis 3:22
New International Version (NIV)
22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” [emphasis is mine]
I've got to ask. How many of gawd are there? Only one? You're buy-bull doesn't seem to agree.
Maybe that's why "intelligent design" doesn't look so intelligent. Design by committee?
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RE: The "soul" stuff
June 4, 2014 at 10:33 pm
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(June 4, 2014 at 10:20 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: (June 3, 2014 at 9:25 pm)Lek Wrote: This was right after they are from the tree:
Genesis 3:22
New International Version (NIV)
22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” [emphasis is mine]
I've got to ask. How many of gawd are there? Only one? You're buy-bull doesn't seem to agree.
It is probably either referring to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who make up the one God; or the ancient Hebrews would use "us" to emphasize the greatness of an individual such as a king.
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RE: The "soul" stuff
June 4, 2014 at 10:34 pm
(June 4, 2014 at 10:33 pm)Lek Wrote: It is probably either referring to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who make up the one God or the ancient Hebrews would use "us" to emphasize the greatness of an individual such as a king.
You keep right on telling yourself that.
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RE: The "soul" stuff
June 4, 2014 at 10:39 pm
(June 4, 2014 at 10:34 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: (June 4, 2014 at 10:33 pm)Lek Wrote: It is probably either referring to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who make up the one God or the ancient Hebrews would use "us" to emphasize the greatness of an individual such as a king.
You keep right on telling yourself that.
Why don't you check some bible commentaries for yourself?
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RE: The "soul" stuff
June 4, 2014 at 11:17 pm
(June 4, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 4, 2014 at 10:34 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: You keep right on telling yourself that.
Why don't you check some bible commentaries for yourself?
And what makes you think I haven't?!? You think picking up a holy book, or someone's interpretation of one (commentaries) will make me break out in a rash or something? Unlike most of you christers, I've actually read the buy-bull and unlike a vast majority of you, I've read commentaries. The problem with them is, they are just as contradictory as the buy-bull itself.
It's all bullshit, and it's bad for ya.
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RE: The "soul" stuff
June 5, 2014 at 8:33 am
(June 4, 2014 at 10:33 pm)Lek Wrote: It is probably either referring to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who make up the one God; or the ancient Hebrews would use "us" to emphasize the greatness of an individual such as a king. Minimalist will probably have the best answer to this but I think you'll find that the use of the term 'Us' in this context is because the book was written at a time when Yahweh was part of the ancient Hebrew pantheon of gods.
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The "soul" stuff
June 5, 2014 at 2:14 pm
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And that the trinity is a leftover of that pantheon, shoehorned into monotheism, when it really isn't.
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