Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler

[Tonus]

Just as I've been saying along. God allows us to make our own choices whether he agrees or not. So where's the problem?

The part where Cato won't torture his kids for an eternity after they die. Three points for him!

[Lek]

Just as I've been saying along. God allows us to make our own choices whether he agrees or not. So where's the problem?

The part where Cato won't torture his kids for an eternity after they die. Three points for him!

Not that it wouldn't be just but, I'm not convinced that God punishes people forever in hell. I don't think that scripture definitively supports that belief.

[Tonus]

Not that it wouldn't be just but, I'm not convinced that God punishes people forever in hell. I don't think that scripture definitively supports that belief.

Errr... what???

[Rampant.A.I.]

And what I don't understand is, why do you care what we believe? Why does it effect your life if we believe in God or not? Why do you feel the need to intervene with our life? It doesn't effect you yet you act like it's life or death

Why do you care what we believe? Why does it effect your life if we believe in God or not? Why do you feel the need to intervene with this forum?

[Lek]

And what I don't understand is, why do you care what we believe? Why does it effect your life if we believe in God or not? Why do you feel the need to intervene with our life? It doesn't effect you yet you act like it's life or death

Why do you care what we believe? Why does it effect your life if we believe in God or not? Why do you feel the need to intervene with this forum?

I care because I want you to be there with me in heaven R.A.I.

[Rampant.A.I.]

That's very sweet Lek, but I'm taken.

[Mystical]

Ok, how about this, my youth pastor went to a small village in Cameroon for a missions trip, this village has neve heard English before, during one of the alter calls an African man started speaking I tounges, the language that was given for him to speak was English, he was speaking perfect English, which was a language that he had never even heard before, he was saying God ou are wonderful all loving and so much more, on perfect English, explain that?[/img]

Did you just make that up?
I'll assume you didn't for arguments' sake. In any case the story doesn't add up.



Official languages: French, English

In World War I the British invaded Cameroon from Nigeria in 1914 in the Kamerun campaign,with the last German fort in the country surrendering in February 1916

I'd say your pastor is full of it or he got conned in Africa out of your money. Religious donations are valued and much needed, I'm sure.


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[Jackalope]

[And the dictionary term to coherent is understandable or reasonable

It's funny that you claim that when two separate dictionaries I consulted disagree with you.

So, [citation needed].

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Honestly, I couldn't care less about your beliefs,

Oh no doubt! You've come on here simply to tout your corner for your dead zombie jew friend. Apox to those who disagree eh?

and I couldn't care less about your insults, I'm here to answer questions and correct things that are said about our religion,

And such a bang up job you're doing as well, mate! You know, acting like a moron and coming out with nonsensical, un-evidenced gibberish really is the way to change our mind on your silly religion.

You know what would change our mind? Evidence. You know what you haven't presented thus far? Take a guess.

And the dictionary term to coherent is understandable or reasonable

Citation please.

And what I don't understand is, why do you care what we believe? Why does it effect your life if we believe in God or not? Why do you feel the need to intervene with our life? It doesn't effect you yet you act like it's life or death

Kid, you're on our forum talking about your beliefs. I don't give two shits about what stupid childish fairytale you believe in. When was the last time you had an atheist knock on your door asking whether you've heard the good news? Shit, just check out your ego.. The whole world is about you and your beliefs.

Do me a favour. Next time you post, try thinking before using your fingers to type ok? I know you've got a brain in there somewhere. Just try and use it a bit more and I'm sure we'll get on just fine.

[Confused Ape]

I have evidence of our God, while to have no evidence against us, I have the miracles I have see and people in my church have seen,

Can you give some examples of these miracles and explain why you believed they were miracles?

plus I have the spirit of God ruminating through me,

?????????? Am not sure what you mean here - Definition of Ruminate

1. To turn a matter over and over in the mind.
2. To chew cud.
v.tr.
To reflect on over and over again.

None of these definitions strike me as relevant to the spirit of God.

when you come into contact with God it is an absolute wonderful thing, it's unexplainable and just amazing, have you ever spoken in tongues?

Have you spoken in tongues? I find it a fascinating phenomenon from the point of view of neuroscience. It's not confined to Christianity, though -
Glossolalia - Non Christian Practise

Other religious groups have been observed to practice some form of theopneustic glossolalia. It is perhaps most commonly in Paganism, Shamanism, and other mediumistic religious practices.[53] In Japan, the God Light Association used to practice glossolalia to cause adherents to recall past lives.[54]

Glossolalia has also been observed in the Voodoo religion of Haiti,[56] as well as in the Hindu Gurus and Fakirs of India.[57][58]

Shamanism, as a religion, is far older than Christianity and a form of it is probably the first religion that humans had. This seems to be why some Christians think that Speaking In Tongues Is Of The Devil.

Speaking-in-Tongues is a demonic form of witchcraft allowed and practiced in many churches today; such as Pentecostal, Assemblies of God, Victory Chapel, The 700 Club, TBN, Benny Hinn, Charismatic, Church of Christ (Lax Lucado) and many Ecumenical Churches that sinfully encourage inter-denominational fellowship at the expense of Biblical doctrine and Biblical moral standards.

One of the clearest evidences from the Bible that speaking-in-tongues is not for today is the fact that the Apostle Paul ONLY mentioned speaking-in-tongues to the church at Corinth. If, as Pentecostals claim, Paul was instructing the church on how to speak in tongues, then why only the church at Corinth? Clearly, Paul was rebuking them for the carnal and worldly heresy of speaking-in-tongues. Notice carefully in 1st Corinthians 3:1 that Paul even refers to the believers at Corinth as being “carnal” and “babes in Christ.” The heresy of tongues had crept into the church at Corinth and God put it in Paul's heart to expose this wicked practice.

A form of demonic speaking-in-tongues is experienced by witch doctors, pagan religions and occultists...

People that speak in tongues are batshit crazy.

Something happens in the brains of people who speak in tongues.

First Neuroimaging Examination of Participants Practicing Glossolalia Shows Decreased Cerebral Activity, Penn Study Shows

Researchers at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine have discovered decreased activity in the frontal lobes, an area of the brain associated with being in control of one’s self. This pioneering study, involving functional imaging of the brain while subjects were speaking in tongues, is in the November issue of Psychiatry Research: Neuroimaging, the official publication of the International Society for Neuroimaging in Psychiatry.

“We noticed a number of changes that occurred functionally in the brain,” comments Principal Investigator Andrew Newberg, MD, Associate Professor of Radiology, Psychiatry, and Religious Studies, and Director for the Center for Spirituality and the Mind, at Penn. “Our finding of decreased activity in the frontal lobes during the practice of speaking in tongues is fascinating because these subjects truly believe that the spirit of God is moving through them and controlling them to speak. Our brain imaging research shows us that these subjects are not in control of the usual language centers during this activity, which is consistent with their description of a lack of intentional control while speaking in tongues.”

Newberg went on to explain, “These findings could be interpreted as the subject’s sense of self being taken over by something else. We, scientifically, assume it’s being taken over by another part of the brain, but we couldn’t see, in this imaging study, where this took place. We believe this is the first scientific imaging study evaluating changes in cerebral activity -- looking at what actually happens to the brain -- when someone is speaking in tongues. This study also showed a number of other changes in the brain, including those areas involved in emotions and establishing our sense of self.”

Newberg concludes that the changes in the brain during speaking in tongues reflect a complex pattern of brain activity. Newberg suggests that since this is the first study to explore this, future studies will be needed to confirm these findings in an attempt to demystify this fascinating religious phenomenon.

We might think that people are crazy for wanting to do it and interpreting the experience as God taking them over but it's not a sign of mental illness in itself.