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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
June 10, 2014 at 7:29 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 7:21 pm)Lek Wrote: Just as I've been saying along. God allows us to make our own choices whether he agrees or not. So where's the problem? The part where Cato won't torture his kids for an eternity after they die. Three points for him!
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
June 10, 2014 at 7:33 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 7:29 pm)Tonus Wrote: (June 10, 2014 at 7:21 pm)Lek Wrote: Just as I've been saying along. God allows us to make our own choices whether he agrees or not. So where's the problem? The part where Cato won't torture his kids for an eternity after they die. Three points for him!
Not that it wouldn't be just but, I'm not convinced that God punishes people forever in hell. I don't think that scripture definitively supports that belief.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
June 10, 2014 at 7:40 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 7:33 pm)Lek Wrote: Not that it wouldn't be just but, I'm not convinced that God punishes people forever in hell. I don't think that scripture definitively supports that belief.
Errr... what???
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Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
June 10, 2014 at 7:57 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote: And what I don't understand is, why do you care what we believe? Why does it effect your life if we believe in God or not? Why do you feel the need to intervene with our life? It doesn't effect you yet you act like it's life or death
Why do you care what we believe? Why does it effect your life if we believe in God or not? Why do you feel the need to intervene with this forum?
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
June 10, 2014 at 8:03 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: (June 10, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote: And what I don't understand is, why do you care what we believe? Why does it effect your life if we believe in God or not? Why do you feel the need to intervene with our life? It doesn't effect you yet you act like it's life or death
Why do you care what we believe? Why does it effect your life if we believe in God or not? Why do you feel the need to intervene with this forum?
I care because I want you to be there with me in heaven R.A.I.
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Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
June 10, 2014 at 8:04 pm
That's very sweet Lek, but I'm taken.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
June 10, 2014 at 8:05 pm
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
June 10, 2014 at 8:13 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote: [And the dictionary term to coherent is understandable or reasonable
It's funny that you claim that when two separate dictionaries I consulted disagree with you.
So, [citation needed].
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
June 11, 2014 at 5:10 am
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(June 10, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote: Honestly, I couldn't care less about your beliefs,
Oh no doubt! You've come on here simply to tout your corner for your dead zombie jew friend. Apox to those who disagree eh?
(June 10, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote: and I couldn't care less about your insults, I'm here to answer questions and correct things that are said about our religion,
And such a bang up job you're doing as well, mate! You know, acting like a moron and coming out with nonsensical, un-evidenced gibberish really is the way to change our mind on your silly religion.
You know what would change our mind? Evidence. You know what you haven't presented thus far? Take a guess.
(June 10, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote: And the dictionary term to coherent is understandable or reasonable
Citation please.
(June 10, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote: And what I don't understand is, why do you care what we believe? Why does it effect your life if we believe in God or not? Why do you feel the need to intervene with our life? It doesn't effect you yet you act like it's life or death
Kid, you're on our forum talking about your beliefs. I don't give two shits about what stupid childish fairytale you believe in. When was the last time you had an atheist knock on your door asking whether you've heard the good news? Shit, just check out your ego.. The whole world is about you and your beliefs.
Do me a favour. Next time you post, try thinking before using your fingers to type ok? I know you've got a brain in there somewhere. Just try and use it a bit more and I'm sure we'll get on just fine.
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RE: Abraham, Isaac, and a Dead Toddler
June 11, 2014 at 7:13 am
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