An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 12:04 pm
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An unorthodox belief in God.
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(June 6, 2014 at 12:04 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: The fuzzy distinction between "truth" and "Truth," belief and "my belief," "I have faith in you," and "I have Faith," is far more damaging to the conveyance of coherent concepts than any curse word ever uttered. Indeed. A lack of critical thinking skills and being able to recognize fallacies is very dangerous to society; the means charlatans, religious "leaders", conmen and politicians have used to control their marks. (June 6, 2014 at 8:50 am)mickiel Wrote: I am ignorant of many things, but my awareness grows annually.Ah, so you'll be an atheist soon enough. Please be aware that "I cannot imagine that this could have occurred in this manner" is best dealt with by continuing to learn and trying to increase our knowledge and understanding. If we decide to go with "therefore the only possible answer is god" we have decided not to learn anything else. You cannot progress further once you decide to stop moving.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 12:31 pm
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2014 at 12:33 pm by archangle.)
(June 6, 2014 at 8:43 am)Napoléon Wrote:(June 6, 2014 at 8:40 am)mickiel Wrote: How could we arrive at awareness as a result of magical physical unaware things combining slowly over billions of years? Even the flesh of humans and animals, which is another proof of God, how can we arrive at having flesh on bones, and then pop a thing like consciousness into it? lmao, yep, we don't have stupid fuks in our atheist camp that do this. colour me blind with brown dog shit colored suprise (June 6, 2014 at 8:40 am)mickiel Wrote: I did not want to put this in the religious section, because I am not religious. I am not christian, not with any group, but I do believe in god, and will explain and debate why. There are a growing number of believers in God who do not adhere to traditional religions and Don't try and use reason in here mickie. these guys are right and you are wrong. You mite as well go to another fundie religious site, like a muslim one. (June 6, 2014 at 12:31 pm)archangle Wrote:(June 6, 2014 at 8:43 am)Napoléon Wrote: So, your 'proofs of god' are simply an argument from ignorance. Colour me surprised. Mite
Cause is another proof of god. There has to be a cause for everything, and evolution nor science has a cause for life, consciousness and matter. Something had to do something for something to exist. Something caused an atom to exist, how could nothing " Cause" it?
Design is proof of God, its evidence of planning in cells and bowels and the sun and in ears, gravity was designed; emotional conten was designed, pluto was designed, eyes were designed. We can accept that airplanes were designed, automobiles were designed, but oh no, we were not designed, nature just built us. No were are evidence of design, our digestive system was designed. Morals are evidence of god. Why do we care about each other? Why do we love people? Why do we have laws and obey those laws? Explain how that evolved? Memory is evidence of god; why do we remember things? How could a physically evolving brain develop memory without sense's to retrospect with identification? Why would nature want us to recall or remember, if its just an advancing evolving unseen mythical force; why do we think backwards?
What caused god?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 12:51 pm
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2014 at 12:52 pm by mickiel.)
archangle Wrote:Don't try and use reason in here mickie. these guys are right and you are wrong. You mite as well go to another fundie religious site, like a muslim one. I been wrong before, and those places you listed keep putting me out. Not many places left to go that are not intimidated. (June 6, 2014 at 12:50 pm)Tonus Wrote: What caused god? He caused parts of himself, that much I know; he created parts of himself, but outside of that little information, I just don't know. |
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