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An unorthodox belief in God.

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An unorthodox belief in God.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 4:16 pm
(June 6, 2014 at 4:14 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: You're not debating, you're making baseless assertions.

Okay, so what part of this site can I go to, to make baseless assertations?
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 4:18 pm
(June 6, 2014 at 1:10 pm)mickiel Wrote: I was foolish before I came here, I'll still be when I leave.

That is the human condition. But you don't have to be AS foolish.

(June 6, 2014 at 1:10 pm)mickiel Wrote: You speak of me giving " Reasons", reason itself is another proof of god. It is unreasaonable to give the creation of reason over to things which could not reason.

Summarily dismissed as an unsupported assertion. You seem to be just repeating the conclusions of things you heard were arguments without knowing the reasoning behind them, or any inkling that there would be any expectation for you to support what you say.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 4:18 pm
(June 6, 2014 at 4:15 pm)mickiel Wrote: Ahh, finally; it came from the creative conscious mind of god! Evidence it had to be a god, because in our physical reality, its impossible for something to come out of nothing.
Assertion. Evidence required.
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#204
RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 4:18 pm
Not true: See quantum physics, which is the level dealing with Planck time and prior.

How could a God decide to create anything before time existed?

Why would a being with nothing to experience be conscious?
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 4:19 pm
(June 6, 2014 at 4:07 pm)Losty Wrote: Just for you insanity Heart

Having diabetes mellitus makes you more likely to die of heart disease.

http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Josh...e1e464.pdf

I always wanted a link to a paper on diabetes! How did you know?!

To me what and how much evidence I want depends on what effect that thing has on me and how likely that thing is. For example with your dog, that picture is enough because whether or not you have a dog named Peanut does not effect my life in any dramatic way (Sorry Peanut). Nor is it particularly unlikely that you have a dog called Peanut considering how dog ownership is very common.

When you talk about god or other supernatural things the steaks are much higher. Worshiping and following the rules of a god is a pretty drastic life change and the likelihood of their being a god is incredibly low so I need a lot of evidence for that. Same of ghosts, demons, bigfoot and dragons.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 4:19 pm
(June 6, 2014 at 4:16 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(June 6, 2014 at 3:24 pm)mickiel Wrote: I backed it up with a fact, its a fact that evolution cannot create anything! You are dismissing that fact.
This is not evidence. This is an assertion. It is a needless assertion, as no one with ANY knowledge of evolution has ever made a claim that evolution creates anything.
(June 6, 2014 at 3:24 pm)mickiel Wrote: Creation requires creator,
Assertion. Evidence required.
(June 6, 2014 at 3:24 pm)mickiel Wrote: new life requires that it came from something already alive!

Assertion. Evidence required.
(June 6, 2014 at 3:24 pm)mickiel Wrote: Intelligence breeds intelligence. Humans give birth to humans. This is back up which you cannot see, just as Christians cannot see there is no such thing as hell; goes right over their heads!
More needless statements, but an assertions nonetheless. And what can I not see? The fact that you think that just because I don't buy into everything you say that I am somehow deficient in understanding? I assure you that's not the case.

The fact that you think my evidence is only assertations does not phase me either.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm
(June 6, 2014 at 4:16 pm)mickiel Wrote: Okay, so what part of this site can I go to, to make baseless assertations?

Anywhere you like, people will still point and laugh. Tis the custom of AF folk.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm (This post was last modified: June 6, 2014 at 4:21 pm by mickiel.)
(June 6, 2014 at 4:18 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(June 6, 2014 at 4:15 pm)mickiel Wrote: Ahh, finally; it came from the creative conscious mind of god! Evidence it had to be a god, because in our physical reality, its impossible for something to come out of nothing.
Assertion. Evidence required.

Rehearsed atheist response.
(June 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm)Insanity Wrote:
(June 6, 2014 at 4:16 pm)mickiel Wrote: Okay, so what part of this site can I go to, to make baseless assertations?

Anywhere you like, people will still point and laugh. Tis the custom of AF folk.

I don't mind the laughing, but the pointing?"?
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 4:21 pm (This post was last modified: June 6, 2014 at 4:24 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(June 6, 2014 at 4:19 pm)mickiel Wrote:
(June 6, 2014 at 4:16 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: This is not evidence. This is an assertion. It is a needless assertion, as no one with ANY knowledge of evolution has ever made a claim that evolution creates anything.
Assertion. Evidence required.

Assertion. Evidence required.
More needless statements, but an assertions nonetheless. And what can I not see? The fact that you think that just because I don't buy into everything you say that I am somehow deficient in understanding? I assure you that's not the case.

The fact that you think my evidence is only assertations does not phase me either.

The objection is not what anyone thinks, it's that bald assertion doesn't qualify as evidence.
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It's circular reasoning.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 4:22 pm (This post was last modified: June 6, 2014 at 4:23 pm by Nine.)
(June 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm)mickiel Wrote: Rehearsed atheist response.

Does that make it wrong? Something being repeated doesn't make it more or less true.
(June 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm)mickiel Wrote: I don't mind the laughing, but the pointing?"?

I know, its rude to point. We just can't help it.
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