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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 5:10 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 12:31 pm)mickiel Wrote: They are " Leads to the truth", and you follow all leads because they lead to somewhere. If its a myth, there would be no credible historical archaeological leads. I have not mentioned an event that cannot be proven, I only list what has been verified.
I don't think you actually understood what I said. Maybe if I repeat it and you actually read it this time, you may understand.
Spiderman lives in NewYork.
NewYork is a real place.
Does spiderman exist?
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 5:47 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 2:46 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Somebody educate mickiel here and explain to him the type of argument he just used. <It's like I can't facepalm enough anymore>
I've tried, but he simply ignores every single thing I say. Typical christer tactic when they can't counter your arguments.
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An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 5:54 pm
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 7:03 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 5:54 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:
Mind if I use that image elsewhere (not on this forum, though)?
The truth is absolute. Life forms are specks of specks (...) of specks of dust in the universe.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 7:10 pm
(June 6, 2014 at 8:43 am)Napoléon Wrote: (June 6, 2014 at 8:40 am)mickiel Wrote: How could we arrive at awareness as a result of magical physical unaware things combining slowly over billions of years? Even the flesh of humans and animals, which is another proof of God, how can we arrive at having flesh on bones, and then pop a thing like consciousness into it?
So, your 'proofs of god' are simply an argument from ignorance. Colour me surprised.
Flesh is proof of god? Am I going to next receive instruction as to how the eczema I've had my whole life is a vital cog, without which His great plan would not come to pass?
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 7:12 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 5:10 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 12:31 pm)mickiel Wrote: They are " Leads to the truth", and you follow all leads because they lead to somewhere. If its a myth, there would be no credible historical archaeological leads. I have not mentioned an event that cannot be proven, I only list what has been verified.
I don't think you actually understood what I said. Maybe if I repeat it and you actually read it this time, you may understand.
Spiderman lives in NewYork.
NewYork is a real place.
Does spiderman exist?
jesus was baptized in the river Jordan, we still have that river
he prayed in the garden of gethsemede, we still have that garden
he was marched through the Damascus gate on his way to being killed, we have that gate
he was killed on the skull mountain, we have that mountain
he was buried in two possible graves, we have them both
he was slapped by a priest, we have that priest bones
a black man helped him carry his cross, we have the bone box of that black man
he taught in Jerusalem, that city is still there
all of this and more is confirmed in history; nothing about spiderman is recorded in history.
I don't think you understand the difference between reality and spiderman.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 7:13 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: (June 6, 2014 at 8:43 am)Napoléon Wrote: So, your 'proofs of god' are simply an argument from ignorance. Colour me surprised.
Flesh is proof of god? Am I going to next receive instruction as to how the eczema I've had my whole life is a vital cog, without which His great plan would not come to pass?
Perhaps he's really saying boobs are proof of god . . .
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 7:14 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: (June 6, 2014 at 8:43 am)Napoléon Wrote: So, your 'proofs of god' are simply an argument from ignorance. Colour me surprised.
Flesh is proof of god? Am I going to next receive instruction as to how the eczema I've had my whole life is a vital cog, without which His great plan would not come to pass?
A bowel movement is proof of god, the kidney and stomach were designed, just like we know a truck's motor was designed; neither of these two things could design and assemble themselves.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 7:15 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 7:14 pm)mickiel Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: Flesh is proof of god? Am I going to next receive instruction as to how the eczema I've had my whole life is a vital cog, without which His great plan would not come to pass?
A bowel movement is proof of god, the kidney and stomach were designed, just like we know a truck's motor was designed; neither of these two things could design and assemble themselves.
If the human body was designed the designer needs to be sacked. He's incompetent.
Also, comparing a biological mechanism with a non organic one fails on multiple levels.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 7:16 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 7:13 pm)Beccs Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: Flesh is proof of god? Am I going to next receive instruction as to how the eczema I've had my whole life is a vital cog, without which His great plan would not come to pass?
Perhaps he's really saying boobs are proof of god . . .
Females are proof of god; one of his finest creations in my view.
(June 8, 2014 at 5:47 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 2:46 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Somebody educate mickiel here and explain to him the type of argument he just used. <It's like I can't facepalm enough anymore>
I've tried, but he simply ignores every single thing I say. Typical christer tactic when they can't counter your arguments.
I do try and respond to everyone; sorry.
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What is your personal concept of God? If you don't follow any religion you're free to have your own.
[/quote Wrote:My personal concept of god is that he exist, is the power behind all energy, he designed all things and maintains them, and he brought humans into being to be with him, after we first live in flesh and confusion, suffer and die. It is because of god that suffering exist, theism and atheism exist, good and evil exist; he wanted us all to experience all this, and we all are predestined to be with him in his world, whether we want that or not, nothing can stop it; its the reason we exist; there will be no choice.
I view god as dominant, an absolute ruler, he always gets his way, he is not democratic , he is loving, gentle, longsuffering, kind, his anger does not last, he is VERY forgiving and patient, and it is because of him that humans do not believe in him; he has hide himself from them, AND, he allowed the perversion of religion, he wanted that to happen.
He is giving humanity a serious bath in ourselves, and we all we know what ruling ourselves has led to.
There is gods way, and nothingelse! We are just living out the plan of god. And its absolutely nothing we can do about it.
(June 8, 2014 at 7:15 pm)Beccs Wrote: [quote='mickiel' pid='684115' dateline='1402269298']
A bowel movement is proof of god, the kidney and stomach were designed, just like we know a truck's motor was designed; neither of these two things could design and assemble themselves.
If the human body was designed the designer needs to be sacked. He's incompetent.
Also, comparing a biological mechanism with a non organic one fails on multiple levels.
The human body is a marvel in design, its stunning and incredible!
The only " fail" my comparrisons ; is that people just fail to comprehend them.
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