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RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
June 8, 2014 at 12:10 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 11:51 am)rasetsu Wrote: I presumed this was open to all gods, not just Yahweh.
It is, but Lek mentioned Abraham and Lek is also a christian, so I responded appropriately, IMO.
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RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
June 8, 2014 at 12:22 pm
Your comments make a lot of sense coming from your worldview which sees our life in the world as the entirety of your existence. But from the christian perspective, this life is but a tiny part of our existence. We aim to do what God wills for us here and then move on to eternity. So we look at things from the perspective of eternity, rather than the short time that we spend here in this world.
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RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
June 8, 2014 at 12:25 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 12:22 pm)Lek Wrote: Your comments make a lot of sense coming from your worldview which sees our life in the world as the entirety of your existence. But from the christian perspective, this life is but a tiny part of our existence. We aim to do what God wills for us here and then move on to eternity. So we look at things from the perspective of eternity, rather than the short time that we spend here in this world.
So thought every Muslim suicide bomber, every priest sacrificing a child at the alter for their stupid idols, every stubborn Christian who refused the possibility that Jesus was merely a mortal. You people are fucking disturbed. You would trade and waste this life, which is for certain, for what your religion and culture promotes, which most definitely is not.
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RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
June 8, 2014 at 12:32 pm
And with God's vote, it would be unanimous
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RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
June 8, 2014 at 12:49 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 12:25 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 12:22 pm)Lek Wrote: Your comments make a lot of sense coming from your worldview which sees our life in the world as the entirety of your existence. But from the christian perspective, this life is but a tiny part of our existence. We aim to do what God wills for us here and then move on to eternity. So we look at things from the perspective of eternity, rather than the short time that we spend here in this world.
So thought every Muslim suicide bomber, every priest sacrificing a child at the alter for their stupid idols, every stubborn Christian who refused the possibility that Jesus was merely a mortal. You people are fucking disturbed. You would trade and waste this life, which is for certain, for what your religion and culture promotes, which most definitely is not.
Don't forget all the atheists in Russia killing off the opposition to further their plans for domination.
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RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
June 8, 2014 at 1:00 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 12:22 pm)Lek Wrote: Your comments make a lot of sense coming from your worldview which sees our life in the world as the entirety of your existence. But from the christian perspective, this life is but a tiny part of our existence. We aim to do what God wills for us here and then move on to eternity. So we look at things from the perspective of eternity, rather than the short time that we spend here in this world.
It's terribly telling that the one part of this scenario you appear to have even considered is the death part. It doesn't matter if your child goes to heaven when you kill them, killing them would still be wrong, because it would cause them pain, and heartbreak at having been so abjectly betrayed by their own parent, not to mention the architect of all creation. I don't imagine dying is particularly pleasant, after all.
More importantly, you're robbing your child of the ability to grow psychologically in an environment that every other human being in existence has grown up in; when you remove the finiteness of life from your child's psychological makeup as they mature, you also rob them of any respect for life. After all, to them life has mostly been something that goes on forever, and that's just assuming that your kid would continue to grow up in heaven, because the alternative, being locked in stasis at the age you die at, is pretty horrific on its own.
Not to mention your child is now growing up in a world without a moral continuum, because one can't sin in heaven and so there's no possible way for him to truly learn right from wrong. Nor would it be possible for him to ever develop a moral sense, if he can never choose good over evil...
You're messing your kid up in a lot more ways than you think, and yet your death-cult thinking has left you locked onto only the most superficial aspect of this. It's truly sociopathic.
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RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
June 8, 2014 at 1:01 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 12:49 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 12:25 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: So thought every Muslim suicide bomber, every priest sacrificing a child at the alter for their stupid idols, every stubborn Christian who refused the possibility that Jesus was merely a mortal. You people are fucking disturbed. You would trade and waste this life, which is for certain, for what your religion and culture promotes, which most definitely is not.
Don't forget all the atheists in Russia killing off the opposition to further their plans for domination.
I forgot that the only reason political opponents destroy one another is due to their failure to appreciate leprechauns.
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RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
June 8, 2014 at 1:40 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 12:10 pm)One Above All Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 11:51 am)rasetsu Wrote: I presumed this was open to all gods, not just Yahweh.
It is, but Lek mentioned Abraham and Lek is also a christian, so I responded appropriately, IMO.
You could certainly expand the scenario to include other religions.
The situation in Bhagavid Gita is somewhat different in that it is the King who is ordering Arjuna to kill his relatives but Krishna is confirming the command against Arjuna's judgement.
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RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
June 8, 2014 at 1:49 pm
I just think of the scene with Loki in Germany and how everybody kneels to Loki. One guy has the courage to stand up. In these threads, the atheists are all like, "Well, I'm that one guy." I'm sorry. I don't buy it. I've played enough poker to know the difference between the talk and the action. I just think a lot of the responses to these threads are all talk and no trouser.
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RE: Open to all-would you sacrifice your child if god told you to?
June 8, 2014 at 2:14 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 12:22 pm)Lek Wrote: Your comments make a lot of sense coming from your worldview which sees our life in the world as the entirety of your existence. But from the christian perspective, this life is but a tiny part of our existence. We aim to do what God wills for us here and then move on to eternity. So we look at things from the perspective of eternity, rather than the short time that we spend here in this world.
I'm sorry; I must've missed the part where you proved you were a telepath, or where I said I thought that "our life in the world is the entirety of [my] existence". Tell me more about myself, please. Have you heard of the James Randi challenge, by the way?
(June 8, 2014 at 1:49 pm)rasetsu Wrote: I just think of the scene with Loki in Germany and how everybody kneels to Loki. One guy has the courage to stand up. In these threads, the atheists are all like, "Well, I'm that one guy." I'm sorry. I don't buy it. I've played enough poker to know the difference between the talk and the action. I just think a lot of the responses to these threads are all talk and no trouser.
See above. Don't presume to speak for anyone but yourself. I've played lots of poker too, you know, so we have that in common. One thing we don't have in common, however, is that I'm inside my own head. Not you. I know what I think, and, unless I state it outright, you don't... most of the time, anyway. You can probably infer from this post that I'm angry at you and Lek, who are apparently psychic.
To put this into perspective, imagine if you said you loved your pet bunny (for the sake of argument, assume you have a pet bunny that you love). I then came along and said that you were lying and/or deluding yourself into believing that, but that you actually always wanted to sacrifice your bunny to Satan in the most horrible way imaginable. This is an exaggeration, of course, but I think (hope) you get my point.
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