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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 10, 2014 at 3:52 pm
The problem I have with theists and creationists is the whole 'burden of proof'. Which side does it lie on? It's obviously theists whom all claim that their religion is the one true claim. There is, however, only one skepticism - Atheism.
Here's a video about this.
I guess my idea here is:
If your god exists, and wants to be worshipped, why doesn't he show it? This argument cannot be toppled, no matter how much theists try. They can never answer this question. When they think they do, they just fail. Deism can only answer this question, and many others.
However, I just want a minute amount of valid evidence. Every theist on the planet has failed to do so.
When they bring up their holy book and make that circular argument, just ask why they believe that specific holy book in particular. Bring up the Torah and Quran.
Ask these little bitches what makes their religion so different. If they say "Jesus", bring up Horus, Krishna, etc.
These people are all blindly following the religion they worship. There is nothing that makes that belief true.
Yet, they continue to be ignorant. Why? I think it is the simple emotional appeal. Those people are emotionally insecure.
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 10, 2014 at 4:10 pm
(June 9, 2014 at 9:23 am)Severan Wrote: Here's a question for every theist and creationist out there.
What evidence or arguments do you have for a god?
As far as I've seen, we've been able to refute nearly all the arguments and rationalize all of the evidence you have. Freudian slip? 
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 10, 2014 at 4:17 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 4:10 pm)alpha male Wrote: (June 9, 2014 at 9:23 am)Severan Wrote: Here's a question for every theist and creationist out there.
What evidence or arguments do you have for a god?
As far as I've seen, we've been able to refute nearly all the arguments and rationalize all of the evidence you have. Freudian slip?
Certain sub-conscious functions can still occur when someone is not conscious. I feel that speech is becoming a part of the human sub-conscious.
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 10, 2014 at 4:33 pm
Study and learn the lesson, dear jesus freak asswipes.
Quote:“INFIDEL, n. In New York, one who does not believe in the Christian religion; in Constantinople, one who does."
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 10, 2014 at 5:41 pm
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. You must experience God in order to believe in him. If you're closed to him, you won't recognize his influence on the world around you and you won't see how he has changed the lives of those who believe in him. Like I've said many times before, you can't discover the supernatural by purely natural processes. The signs are there in the structure of the universe and in living creatures, but you're blind to them, because you've limited your options in interpreting them. You don't know if the universe was created or always existed, but you're unwilling to accept anything but a scientific explanation. So far you haven't found one, but you keep searching. It could be God, but you won't open up to the possibility.
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 10, 2014 at 5:49 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Lek Wrote: The proof of the pudding is in the eating. You must experience God in order to believe in him... ie; you have to assume a deity exists before you can demonstrate it's existence.
Quote:...you can't discover the supernatural by purely natural processes. The signs are there in the structure of the universe and in living creatures, but you're blind to them...
Utter BS, someone threw word salad at you and you swallowed it.
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 10, 2014 at 5:52 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Lek Wrote: The proof of the pudding is in the eating. You must experience God in order to believe in him.
That's odd, because an endless procession of theists have said the exact opposite: that I had to believe in order to experience god (which I personally did for a long time, to no avail).
Which is it?
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 10, 2014 at 5:53 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 5:49 pm)Mr Greene Wrote: (June 10, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Lek Wrote: The proof of the pudding is in the eating. You must experience God in order to believe in him... ie; you have to assume a deity exists before you can demonstrate it's existence.
Quote:...you can't discover the supernatural by purely natural processes. The signs are there in the structure of the universe and in living creatures, but you're blind to them...
Utter BS, someone threw word salad at you and you swallowed it.
You don't have to assume a deity exists before you can demonstrate its existence. You must experience his existence before you can demonstrate it.
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 10, 2014 at 6:11 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 5:53 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 10, 2014 at 5:49 pm)Mr Greene Wrote: ie; you have to assume a deity exists before you can demonstrate it's existence.
Utter BS, someone threw word salad at you and you swallowed it.
You don't have to assume a deity exists before you can demonstrate its existence. You must experience his existence before you can demonstrate it.
For example, Lek "experiencing" his deity;
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 10, 2014 at 6:44 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 5:52 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (June 10, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Lek Wrote: The proof of the pudding is in the eating. You must experience God in order to believe in him.
That's odd, because an endless procession of theists have said the exact opposite: that I had to believe in order to experience god (which I personally did for a long time, to no avail).
Which is it?
That's why you don't believe anymore.
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